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Re: Do we have parallel universes - 08-21-2007, 11:58 AM

Thats perfect Austin, thank you, thank you, and thank you again.

A quick review of the ProPuAu theory of parallel universes. ( btw there is room for other letters in the alphabet in our theory if anyone has some contributions to make to this post. I'm sure RP and Austin wouldn't have a problem with that )

1. There is problems with a one universe model in the asymmetical theory.

2. There is no known physical law which prohibits a parallel universe.

3. Even a steady stater would have problems with the missing anti/particles.

4. Physicists agree that at creation there were about the same number of particles as anti/particles. They needed a slightly asymmetrical creation with the annihilation of a 1,000,000 to a 1,000,000,000 universes to accomplish there theory as to why we only have particles.

5. Parallel universes are really in vogue right now in the current discussion of cosmology

6. I believe it is only logical that particles and anti/particles with opposing spin would tend to go in opposite directions.

7. That the two universes would be side by side. Like gears intermeshed. ( Brillant RP ). But unique to our parallel universe is that they would constitute ONE universe.

The main criticism, I'm sure will come from the empiricist screaming out in unison; " Where is the empirical data. Where is the empirical data. Where is the emipirical data.", as if they crapped out all of their logic.

Things as small as strings or as large as the universe rely more on theory now, rather than data.

Personally, I think starting with the theoritically smallest substance ( one dimensional-planck length size ) strings and building a 4th dimensional ( dare I say it ) infinite universe, is as Brian Greene stated ELOQUENT.

Best to all,

Pat

P.S. RP I read your thread suggesting research on the steady state, pulsating and created universes. And so I did. Could it be we have all three. One of the Hindu theories is that the universe is created, expands, and then collapses, only to start all over again. Wouldn't that satisfy all three theories?




  
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Re: Do we have parallel universes - 08-21-2007, 01:27 PM

Dear Austin, Prof Pat and whomever else it may concern:

Note the dynamic identity of the magentic field of the earth as it compares to Austin's illustration, only - with the exemplary earth - the flux is emitted from the north pole of the earth and goes around to enter the south pole, ad infinitum. This dynamic structure is characteristic of microcosmic entitities such as the electron, as well as macrocosmic entities such as *sun (*stars) and planets...

(There is a connotation of matter and antimatter meeting and 'exploding' <expanding> here, also - the 'explosion' can be interpreted as the omnidirectional <4-D> expansion of matter itself... Now consider the vertical rotation of the blades of an egg-beater or mix master: then consider a dynamic added to that, entailing the structure, say, of the Van Allen belt. These considerations combined in a single phenomenon, may constitute a conceptual explanation for 'what's happening'... The dualistically spiraling paths of DNA also comes to mind here... <Ya get the picture?>)

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Re: Do we have parallel universes - 08-21-2007, 04:01 PM

An excellent observation and connection RP.

Would you propose a similar magnetic or other field being emitted outside our universe?
Or would that be the energy moving our parallel universes?

I'm beginning to imagine, but need a little more help from you. I do so rely on pictures to help me understand.

Since the departure of my last girlfriend and her taking all the kitchen stuff, I find myself without an egg beater or mix master.

If you turn the egg beater in one direction does the stuff go up? And turning in the other direction does the stuff go down? I'm not familiar with vertical rotation.

I should go out and buy an egg beater so I could make scrambled eggs again.

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Re: Do we have parallel universes - 08-21-2007, 04:18 PM

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An excellent observation and connection RP.

Would you propose a similar magnetic or other field being emitted outside our universe?
Or would that be the energy moving our parallel universes?

I'm beginning to imagine, but need a little more help from you. I do so rely on pictures to help me understand.

Since the departure of my last girlfriend and her taking all the kitchen stuff, I find myself without an egg beater or mix master.

If you turn the egg beater in one direction does the stuff go up? And turning in the other direction does the stuff go down? I'm not familiar with vertical rotation.

I should go out and buy an egg beater so I could make scrambled eggs again.

Best to all,

Pat
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The metaphorical Van Allen belt (stuff) goes up (north) when you rotate the egg beater blades in one direction, and down(south) when you rotate the blades in the opposite direction. I haven't got an egg beater or mix master either, so our mystery continues, as to which vertical rotation produces what Van Allen belt direction. Maybe Austin could be persuaded to experiment in his kitchen and then draw a picture for everybody as he is so inclined to unscramble things (while designing colorful omelettes? <Where's Austin?> )

Thank you for your compliments and the same for you, Prof.

Best regards,
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Re: Do we have parallel universes - 08-26-2007, 04:33 PM

Are you ready to get back to work on this RP?

First a little research I did, which you probably knew.

Particle and anti/particle are always crearted together in the lab.

They make the distiction between particle and anti/particle by spin and opposite/spin.

WHEN A VERTICAL MAGNETIC FIELD IS APPLIED, POSITIVELY AND NEGATIVELY CHARGED PARTICLES WILL CURVE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS.

VERTICAL MAGNETIC FIELD.

Will right away I started thinking about RP's egg beater theory ( thats the theory that RP will provide a theory that you'll need before you need it ).

So can we have a vertical magnetic field being created right at the start?

Can you fit it in RP and make it work?

Best,

Pat

PS How did you know about the universe expanding at an accelerating rate and that they needed Lambda even though Einstein rejected it.
That has to be a pretty good theory to have predicted those two.

  
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Re: Do we have parallel universes - 08-26-2007, 06:29 PM

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Are you ready to get back to work on this RP?

First a little research I did, which you probably knew.

Particle and anti/particle are always crearted together in the lab.

They make the distiction between particle and anti/particle by spin and opposite/spin.

WHEN A VERTICAL MAGNETIC FIELD IS APPLIED, POSITIVELY AND NEGATIVELY CHARGED PARTICLES WILL CURVE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS.

VERTICAL MAGNETIC FIELD.

Will right away I started thinking about RP's egg beater theory ( thats the theory that RP will provide a theory that you'll need before you need it ).

So can we have a vertical magnetic field being created right at the start?

Can you fit it in RP and make it work?

Best,

Pat

PS How did you know about the universe expanding at an accelerating rate and that they needed Lambda even though Einstein rejected it.
That has to be a pretty good theory to have predicted those two.
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"Can we have a vertical magnetic field being created right at the start?"

Hey Prof., it sounds like you've researched yourself into answering your own question...
Why not? All of space is permeated with electromagnetism.
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Regarding the 'recent' discovery of the accelerating ('Hubble's expanding') universe:

Once I learned that G. P. Thompson (son of J.J. Thompson) proved that electrons are expanding (The Limitations of Science by J.W.N. Sullivan), I was able to pursue that experimental discovery to the conclusion that all of matter itself is expanding...

This opened the doors to the observation that apparently descending objects are not actually falling (accelerating downward), but instead, are being overtaken and struck by an expanding (accelerating) earth, and, that gravity is the 4th dimension (the right angle projection of the three recognized dimensions).

Since gravity is synonymous with acceleration, I knew that the spaces 'separating' physical entities would also have to be accelerating - that Einstein's Cosmological Constant (Lambda) was apparently engaged.

There is a strong hint also in the fact that in Hubble's 'red shift' expanding universe, the rate of expansion increases with distance...

This dovetails with the factor of the Cosmological Constant's distinction, as being the only known 'force that increases with distance'.
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Post Script:
Incidentally, no, I did not know that:
WHEN A VERTICAL MAGNETIC FIELD IS APPLIED, POSITIVELY AND NEGATIVELY CHARGED PARTICLES WILL CURVE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS.

But I just learned it from you, and I think we are agreed that it soitinly sounds about right, and corroborates our earlier discussions.

Very well done, Prof.

By all means, continue to lemme know what else is on yer mind.

Thanks for the compliments.

Best regards,
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"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
"Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
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Re: Do we have parallel universes - 08-28-2007, 08:57 PM

------------------ABSTRACT----------------------

It is the author's intent to present a new model of the universe. We believe our justification arises in that the presently assumed asymmetrical model is insufficient.

Being an asymmetrical model it naturally allows for CP symmetry violations, indeed it demands it.
Consistent with this, is the theory that for every particle which was not annihilated, 1,000,000 to 1,000,000,000 particles/antiparticles were annihilated.
Since 1 universe was not annihilated, the mathematical equivalent to that, would be 1,000,000 to 1,000,000,000 universes and antiuniverses were annihilated.
This of course brings up the question as to where is all that energy?

Our model is one of an antimatter parallel universe which was created simultaneous with our matter universe.
This is not a multiverse model, in that we view the dual universe to be one UNIverse. In the same regards as yin/yang constitute one Tao.

We believe that vertical magnetic force was the agent to seperate the particles and antiparticle into different areas of space. This is consistent with laboratory observations.

This paper, due to the nature of the subject, will be very theoritical and be based upon logic, intuit, and common sense. A priori, Occums razor, and probability theory, are our main guide and defense.

Our thought is that our model:

1) Should be consistent with known physical laws.
2) Should be the easiest way to describe our reality.
3) Should make sense.

We believe our model accomplishes that.

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OK RP you write the paper, we'll have Austin illustrate it, and we'll all be millionaires. ( In virtual dollars of course.)

Best,

Pat

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Re: Do we have parallel universes - 08-29-2007, 12:48 AM

String theory presumes existence of multiple universes, not just parallel universes. Among multiple universes only communication link would be Light ( electro magnetic radiation). Deciphering the information would prove the existence of other universes and their structure.

My Philosophical view point is - consciousness has the potential to traverse the multiple universes and multiple dimensions. It can also express the information from other dimensions and universes, but we are locked in 3 dimensions and do not have faith or intelligence to believe such data.


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Re: Do we have parallel universes - 08-29-2007, 06:30 AM

Thank you Yogi;

I agree with your post, both about the string theory allowing for multiple universes ,and that consciousness holds the key.

However 1 universe at a time, and I think we need one to rebutt the asymmetrical theory.

Thank you for your input.

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Thank you Yogi;

I agree with your post, both about the string theory allowing for multiple universes ,and that consciousness holds the key.

However 1 universe at a time, and I think we need one to rebutt the asymmetrical theory.

Thank you for your input.

Pat
Thank you also Pat,the "key" is the magic word,the nearest parallel universe is within
arms reach of us all,"the etheric/astral planes!


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