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10-26-2007, 04:40 AM
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Hi Nobody and all,

Good to hear from you and to hear that which would confirm my speculation of the formation of matter and antimatter in the high energy experiments of photonic collisions. The cosmological question is where does this occur naturally in nature and how come that we have the predominance of matter to antimatter in the universe? I suggested that the production of matter and antimatter either occurs at the event horizon of a black hole or naturally occuring plasma states in the universe. This of cause will not solve the problem of the predominance of matter over anti-matter in the uninverse. I suggested that the antimatter is outside the event horizon and matter within the event horizon. This would mean that the universe which we can observe, exists within a huge black hole.

You said that matter and antimatter are converted back to energy and dark energy. I do not know what this dark energy is, or what is its composition? As far as I know, when matter and antimatter are converted back to energy, they convert back to photons or to the quanta particles which they were before they were converted to matter and antimatter. I speculated that each quantum particle has virtual mass in so far as it affects both gravitationally and kinetically particles outside itself. I suggested that the virtual mass of quanta particles or of radiant light, could be the 90 percent missing mass of the universe.

Could you tell me more about the dark energy?

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G = mc^2. The universe in its entirety is a blackhole, or, from an observers point of view, a mini blackhole.

For what it's worth, cosvis, I wouldn't change a thing. It's perfect as it is, and you appear to be able to express it better than me.

The dark energy is the same as regular energy carried by photons. The dark energy is carried by gravitons. As Dave pointed out to me about the electrons and positrons, both are the same. Gravity is light in reverse.

I equate dark matter and antimatter, with the consideration that there is a continual annihilation of matter and antimatter, but the light is swallowed by the stronger energy of gravity at the planck scale so is not observable.

Best I could do. Make of it what you will.
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Thank you for explaining to me your very interesting ideas of dark matter being the same as anti matter, and dark energy the same as gravitons, and thus making gravity as a kind of an anti photon. My idea of a photon is that it is a quantum particle consisting of a conserved quantity of energy a Planck, and that it consist of two equal but opposite, conserved kinetic and gravitational forces and energies. The quantum particle constantly moves at the speed of light, it has virtual mass, it is the most fundamental element of energy in the universe, and it could be seen as a mini black hole. I speculated that the quanta particles or photons can be formed into matter and anti-matter and this cycle can be reversed where matter and anti matter are turned back to photons or quanta particles. These proccesses seem to occur continuously and naturally in the universe. It seems to me that our ideas do differ but there also seems to be similarities.
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Hi Nobody and all,

Thank you for explaining to me your very interesting ideas of dark matter being the same as anti matter, and dark energy the same as gravitons, and thus making gravity as a kind of an anti photon. My idea of a photon is that it is a quantum particle consisting of a conserved quantity of energy a Planck, and that it consist of two equal but opposite, conserved kinetic and gravitational forces and energies. The quantum particle constantly moves at the speed of light, it has virtual mass, it is the most fundamental element of energy in the universe, and it could be seen as a mini black hole. I speculated that the quanta particles or photons can be formed into matter and anti-matter and this cycle can be reversed where matter and anti matter are turned back to photons or quanta particles. These proccesses seem to occur continuously and naturally in the universe. It seems to me that our ideas do differ but there also seems to be similarities.

Apart from your part where you say a photon could be seen as a black hole (which is just incorrect) there is nothing profound in your thinking. The photon *is* a quantum particle, and when matter and anti-matter annihilate they form a photon (and thus, given enough energy, the reverse reaction could occur).
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I equate dark matter and antimatter, with the consideration that there is a continual annihilation of matter and antimatter,
I'm not going to try and comment on the first part of your post, but this is simply incorrect. The majority of dark matter is non-baryonic dark matter, that is, is not made up of protons or neutrons, and hence not anti-protons. If it were baryonic, then it would interact with regular matter. However, we see from observations that it simply does not. Now, I know that this forum is all about conjecture and speculation, but surely it makes no sense to conjecture things that cannot possibly be true?
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Could you tell me more about the dark energy?
Dark energy, in the sense that cosmologists use the word, can most simply be described as whatever is driving the acceleration of the expansion of the universe. We don't know what this is; it could be the cosmological constant-- a constant put into Einstein's field equations, or it could be some sort of vacuum energy. Dark energy is just a blanket term.
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Dark energy is a hypothetical term, much like the Higgs field. A concept created by physicists to explain the unexplained, although the laws of causality is more localized than universal...

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although the laws of causality is more localized than universal...

What do you mean by this? I don't see how it relates to the rest of your comment (which, by the way, is just a rewording of what I said, and thus I agree with)
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Apart from your part where you say a photon could be seen as a black hole (which is just incorrect) there is nothing profound in your thinking. The photon *is* a quantum particle, and when matter and anti-matter annihilate they form a photon (and thus, given enough energy, the reverse reaction could occur).
Hi Neutralino;

I know about particle and antiparticle annihilation creating photons, but can't photons be " made " when mass converts to energy, other than particle antiparticle annihilation?

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