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Does that mean on an extremely micro scale the effects of gravity is replusive?? Because if quantum effects dominate the attaction, then what does gravity do??
No, it doesn't mean that gravity is repulsive, it just means that the repulsive quantum forces are stronger than the attractive gravitational forces. Nothing changes about the nature of either forces, we just move to a scale where the gravitational force is no longer the strongest
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The issue is if the repulsive forces are stronger, then what holds the subatomic particles together? The strong nuclear forces??



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The issue is if the repulsive forces are stronger, then what holds the subatomic particles together? The strong nuclear forces??
I don't think there's anything that says the subatomic particles have to be held together in this scenario. Remember we're talking about a highly theoretical situation here, and it is very speculative since we don't know how gravity couples to the other forces
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The issue is if the repulsive forces are stronger, then what holds the subatomic particles together? The strong nuclear forces??
I think the most recent theory is that 8 gluons hold together the 3 quarks which make up the proton and neutron.

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I read that. But what do Gluons actally do?? What force do they exert that binds all the quarks together? Is it electromechanical force? Is electromechanical force such a strong force that it can hold quarks together???

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I read that. But what do Gluons actally do?? What force do they exert that binds all the quarks together? Is it electromechanical force? Is electromechanical force such a strong force that it can hold quarks together???
A most excellent question Dipayankar and one of the reasons I eliminated them from my Idea. I didn't need them.

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Perhaps we don't need the quarks ether. I mean either.
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I read that. But what do Gluons actally do?? What force do they exert that binds all the quarks together? Is it electromechanical force? Is electromechanical force such a strong force that it can hold quarks together???
Gluons are mediators of the strong force.
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My take on this question;

( cheated a little, just posted this on another thread)

The cosmos is a closed system with a limit on expansion due to conservation of energy.
Current thinking states that space/time was created at the time of the BB which to me implies
That space/time is finite.

Personally, I think the creation of space/time preceded the so called BB which followed some
Time later.

Yes, all of this came after the BC. (which reclaimed space/time)

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If it is a cyclic universe, then my question is where did the first matter come from. If it is not a cyclic universe, then was matter / energy created from nothing???

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My take on this question;

( cheated a little, just posted this on another thread)

The cosmos is a closed system with a limit on expansion due to conservation of energy.
Current thinking states that space/time was created at the time of the BB which to me implies
That space/time is finite.

Personally, I think the creation of space/time preceded the so called BB which followed some
Time later.

Yes, all of this came after the BC. (which reclaimed space/time)

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