Thank you for the compliment Neutralino, welcome to my science of recursiveness.
I am not saying there are 3 temporal dimensions. Depending on how you look at it I see 12 dimensions total leading from any given point. 3 directions in space but each can be either positive or negative so that is 3*2=6 space dimensions. Plus for each space dimension there are two dimensions in time, either forward or backward. So that's 6*2=12 total dimensions leading from any given point. Also time has infinite derivations such as acceleration, acceleration of acceleration, acceleration of acceleration of acceleration, etc. etc.
Yes, just as you described quantum tunnelling is exactly how I understand it. So think of the speed of light as a potential that is high enough that we cannot get over it. Therefore to get over it we must tunnell. The only difference is that modern theory does not accept that macro objects can behave quantum mechanically. That is because no experiment to date has a high enough acceleration to test this.
And when I say an object can dissappear and reappear at the same place but at a different time i don't mean a different time per se but what I mean is an alternate universe. So imagine that all alternate universes exist on top of one another. We could essentially dissappear and reappear in the same "place" but it might look totally different if it is the same "place" but in an alternate universe, aka a different time. Do you see what I mean? I don't mean that the object is just gone for a while and it reappears. I mean it reappears at the same time it left but it appears to be in a different time because it is now in an alternate universe. This alternate universe may or may not closely resemble the original universe, but it will resemble it to at least some degree.
And even though the object transits instantaneously there is still a time within time and that is when the object acts like it's own complete universe. That is how I'm saying that our universe is actually just a quantum object that is stuck in transit between two alternate universes. So it is almost like right now we are in the dissallowed space. We are in the midst of a tunnelling event in a higher dimensional reference frame. If we were to send something faster than TSOL we would create a time within time that mirrors the whole of cosmology. But this would only occur in an instant to us and the object would reappear at essentially the same time it left.
You also seem to be confused a little with what quantum tunneling means. The whole point of tunneling in QM is that there is a potential which is high enough that a particle cannot get over it; that is, there is a classically disallowed region, but somehow the particle indeed appears in the disallowed regions. This is because the particle tunnels through the potential. However, I don't see that this can relate to tunneling in a temporal dimension. I admit I am nowhere near an expert in quantum theory, though. I have no qualms with a particle tunneling and appearing at another point in space instantaneously[*] but I can't see how a particle can just disappear and reappear in the same point in space a certain time later. Where does this particle go? It must go somewhere, or its own proper timeline would be disjoint, which cannot happen.
Anyway, I don't know what else to say. I must say that I prefer this side of you, POK, to the one who demands attention!
[*]Ok, so instanteously doesn't strictly work if we try and incorporate relativity, but I'll let that slide.
The only issue I would have, Pok, is your use of infinite velocity which initially caught my eye. Even infinitely exceeding the speed of light would not be able to quantum tunnel over an infinite space.
The other few things would be absolute motion consisting of discrete units of absolute motion instead of absolute rest; the same would apply to the 1/0, which I can accept, but that it cannot possibly be in motion. Then 1/0, 0/0 and 0/1 are synonymous states with regards to motion. If 0/0 is arbitrary, then it can equal 1/0.
Neutralino,
I wanted know the exact mechanics involved in the vacuum energy. If it doesn't create space by stretching it, you are not separating particulate matter and space, what is your best guesstimate as to what is going on in there exactly?
Theory of Conservation of Energy says ' Matter / Energy is constant and cannot be created or destroyed.' Then where did the energy of the Big Bang come from? Were the laws of physics violated at that time or is the Universe cyclic where after every cycle the Universe is reborn. What happens between the time the earlier universe is destroyed and a new universe is born. Is energy constant during that period? Or is new energy 'born' to replenish whatever 'losses' might have happened during the interim period??
Hi Dipayankar;
Drifter gave a good link on your subjest in my Idea thread.
The redshift that we observe of the Universe does point to a certain velocity (and I belive it is not infinite). So you mean to say that expansion will eventually lead to the absolute velocity. But is it possible and acceptable by the laws of physics to attain absolute velocity??
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Dip,
From what I gather, Pok's theory is based on standard cosmology with a Peter Lynds' twist, Einstein's spacetime, and Pok's own 1/0 math.
We have debated these issues before, and on all three counts above what is lacking, understandably because it is non-relative, is Newton's absolute spacetime - the math for that is 0/0 - which is supposed to be in the process of being incorporated into Pok's brilliant number chart. Whereby the absolute spacetime carries throughout all relative frames and co-ordinate systems - essentially, there can no longer be any such concept as planck's constant.
When there is the concept of planck incorporate into standard cosmology, the planck era posits infinite energy density and expansion velocity of space itself. Therefore space itself accelerates at infinite velocity during this era, the two less-than-planck-distance points Pok referred us to, without ripping spacetime because it is spacetime as a whole that is allegedly accelerating at this velocity. The observed redshifted expansion of the universe is based on the effect expansion has a mass and the light emitted from the systems.
With that said, just like the big-bang scenario, space doesn't rip itself, but the systems rip when the forces separate an gravity and eventually the strong force become too weak to offset the expansion at greater-than-planck. So, if it were possible to rip spacetime, spacetime would have to travel faster than infinite velocity - which equates to absolute speed - and even then space doesn't rip because, if you wish, it is already fully ripped inside and out and up and down.
Ultimately, the universe can't flip because it is fundamentally nowhere at all times, or everywhere if you prefer. Only the systems can be converted continually from energy to mass to energy, observably always at top-velocity c unless the amount of energy absorbable by human retinae changes. Beyond the detectible energy spectrum, it would follow that light would accelerate infinitely up to absolute speed.
You also seem to be confused a little with what quantum tunneling means. The whole point of tunneling in QM is that there is a potential which is high enough that a particle cannot get over it; that is, there is a classically disallowed region, but somehow the particle indeed appears in the disallowed regions. This is because the particle tunnels through the potential. However, I don't see that this can relate to tunneling in a temporal dimension.
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Yes, just as you described quantum tunnelling is exactly how I understand it. So think of the speed of light as a potential that is high enough that we cannot get over it. Therefore to get over it we must tunnell. The only difference is that modern theory does not accept that macro objects can behave quantum mechanically. That is because no experiment to date has a high enough acceleration to test this.
Dear POK & Neutralino ....
First of all I'm shitty that I don't have a medal and both of you do ..... Bummer !!!
Secondly its obvious that both of you have been buried in Science so long that you have not been keeping yours eyes on the capitalist entrepreneurs .... LOL
This is not a QM explanation of quantum tunneling. This is an analogy (or story) of how quantum tunneling works. Not to be interpreted literally!!
Lets say we hang a bucket on a low branch in a tree. Now we start dropping marbles or ball-bearings into it. Of course it is obvious that they will stay in the bucket, none can fall thru and hit the ground. This is an Aristotelian, Newtonian, or Classical point of view. Take your pick. We are all Aristotelian in our point of view ... our senses tell us so. We may believe in QM but we are not willing to bet hard earned cash that one of the marbles will mysteriously pass thru the steel bottom of the bucket.
QM does not take this point of view. QM says that statistically a time will come when a marble will appear beneath the bucket. We may have to try this with billions and trillions of marbles but QM says ... It WILL happen!!
When the first diode was invented (the electrical equivalent of a one way street) this semi-conductor led to the transistor which led to the chip. And look where that has got us ... LOL. Semi-conductors are QM devices
Industry was having a hard time preventing fires which depleted profits. The race was on to find a way to detect smoke and thereby snuff the fire before damage occurred. The trouble was that even normal air contains minute smoke particles. Smoke detectors were just too sensitive !!
So industry heard about QM tunneling and put money into research. This led to the 'tunnel diode' (the principle of its operation is quantum tunnelling). A tunnel diode is the 'bucket' I mentioned in the first paragraph. Put a detector below the bucket ... and if you detect a smoke particle you know for certain that there must be a billion smoke particles in the 'bucket. There is no mistake, no false alarm ... Shout FIRE, FIRE .... LOL
Tunnel Diodes and Zener Diodes are a few cents each at Radio-Shack or Dick Smiths. There are many of them on the mother board of the PC you are using .. So they are truly 'temporal' devices.
But they are no longer used in smoke detectors as these detectors required radioactive particles to operate. Better devices have been invented.
So POK ... for just a few cents you can Quantum Tunnel till your hearts content ... and you won't need to accelerate anywhere ....
cool bananas ... greg
__________________ 'Blondie says I must hate all Brunettes. I'll try, but if I can't ... I'll love them both' ... graffiti on Tavern wall, Pompeii, circa AD 70.
"The redshift that we observe of the Universe does point to a certain velocity (and I belive it is not infinite). So you mean to say that expansion will eventually lead to the absolute velocity. But is it possible and acceptable by the laws of physics to attain absolute velocity??"
The laws of physics are based on relative changes, and the absolute never changes. So physics doesn't permit reaching absolute speed, but it doesn't have to be reached.
The absolute universe doesn't require any motion at all to reach anywhere because it is already everywhere; and because it is equivalent to zero speed, the reasoning behind equating everywhere with nowhere may be realized.
I agree with you that the Universe is everywhere. But the Universe is expanding, where to??? Is it expanding within itself, If yes, then the Universe is finite. If it is finite, then what is there beyond the Universe??
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"The redshift that we observe of the Universe does point to a certain velocity (and I belive it is not infinite). So you mean to say that expansion will eventually lead to the absolute velocity. But is it possible and acceptable by the laws of physics to attain absolute velocity??"
The laws of physics are based on relative changes, and the absolute never changes. So physics doesn't permit reaching absolute speed, but it doesn't have to be reached.
The absolute universe doesn't require any motion at all to reach anywhere because it is already everywhere; and because it is equivalent to zero speed, the reasoning behind equating everywhere with nowhere may be realized.
I agree with you that the Universe is everywhere. But the Universe is expanding, where to??? Is it expanding within itself, If yes, then the Universe is finite. If it is finite, then what is there beyond the Universe??
I don't quite follow. Why must an expanding universe be finite? An infinite universe can also expand!
__________________ ~neutralino
If you haven't found something strange during the day, it hasn't been much of a day - John A. Wheeler.
Lets define expansion here neutralino. For me any plane expanding has to have borders that are expanding to newer frontiers. How can an infinite Universe expand?? It is infinite anyway???
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I don't quite follow. Why must an expanding universe be finite? An infinite universe can also expand!
Lets define expansion here neutralino. For me any plane expanding has to have borders that are expanding to newer frontiers. How can an infinite Universe expand?? It is infinite anyway???
That's implying that a finite universe must have boundaries, which is also not true.
An infinite universe can expand: it will of course still be infinite, but the distances between all points on the manifold will increase. This is, roughly, the definition of expansion.
__________________ ~neutralino
If you haven't found something strange during the day, it hasn't been much of a day - John A. Wheeler.
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