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Cyclic Universe - 10-25-2007, 02:27 PM

Theory of Conservation of Energy says ' Matter / Energy is constant and cannot be created or destroyed.' Then where did the energy of the Big Bang come from? Were the laws of physics violated at that time or is the Universe cyclic where after every cycle the Universe is reborn. What happens between the time the earlier universe is destroyed and a new universe is born. Is energy constant during that period? Or is new energy 'born' to replenish whatever 'losses' might have happened during the interim period??
  
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Re: Cyclic Universe - 10-25-2007, 03:05 PM

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For the conservation laws to hold true the property of motion of the fundamental substance (FS) of the universe must be constant and thus “ABSOLUTE”. The quantity of motion possessed by the FS before the BB event is still the same now as it was then; it’s just distributed as various types of motion throughout each system of FS. (see the Toronic Blog)


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Re: Cyclic Universe - 10-25-2007, 03:58 PM

My vote is toward a cyclic system within our existence medium.
I also believe that there are 2 existence mediums within our Multiverse.
I believe that our primary force is a bipole as

One existence medium (Eden):
gravity(space,matter,energy)3
and
continue(time,being,creation)1
The other existence medium (Elsewhen)
Continue(time,being,creation)3
And
Gravity(space,matter,energy)1

This results with a right left symmetry of the predicate. And 11 dimensions

I also feel that the only force that is effective across the multiverse is the primary force. The other forces are only effective within there existence medium.

If you look at this system in this way you will see that there is explanations for many of the things that we see that there is no explanation for by other systems. Dark matter dark energy both of these are the effect of the absolute mass of the alternate existence medium. Gravity(space,matter,energy)1 red shift = the non linearity caused by the reversal of the poles at the macro uncertainty principle = the non linearity caused by the reversal of the poles at the micro.
Thus defining an existance medium between the micro and macro.


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Re: Cyclic Universe - 10-25-2007, 07:01 PM

Hi Dipayankar;

What a wonderful, creative question, and I have no idea as to the answer.

A pure guess would be like John's, a cyclic universe, where everything is conserved.

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Re: Cyclic Universe - 10-25-2007, 07:05 PM

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Theory of Conservation of Energy says ' Matter / Energy is constant and cannot be created or destroyed.' Then where did the energy of the Big Bang come from? Were the laws of physics violated at that time or is the Universe cyclic where after every cycle the Universe is reborn. What happens between the time the earlier universe is destroyed and a new universe is born. Is energy constant during that period? Or is new energy 'born' to replenish whatever 'losses' might have happened during the interim period??
One thinks one has an answer to your question Dipayankar.

The value of the total amount of energy available for creative applications of all manner and kind is an undivided value of absolutely magnanimous proportions. THis value one speaks of flies in the face of the "conservation of energy" because conservation can only be applied to a limited resource, whereas the great possibility we are dealing with is that the total amount of energy available for creative applications of all manner and kind is limitless.

The laws of thermodynamics which infer the conservation of energy were written before the discovery of the big bang and the expansion of the universe. Your question is very relevant because if energy is conserved, then we must know where the energy comes from. The problem is that we do not ultimately know where energy comes from.

As one mentioned the great possibility we are dealing with is that the total amount of energy that lies in the place where energy originates from is actually an undivided value of absolutely magnanimous proportions. It may be such a number that no matter how much is subtracted from it, it never changes it's value. Such a possibility is indeed titillating and warrants our existence in the cosmos.

As far as how or why the big bang began, it is entirely conceivable that the universe happened for the reason, that it is possible to send something faster than TSOL. This would set up a sort of causal time loop whereby it is possible to send something faster than TSOL because the big bang happened, and the big bang happened because it is possible to send something faster than TSOL.

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Re: Cyclic Universe - 10-26-2007, 03:09 PM

Thanks folks for all the replies... They were all well varied and that is the beauty of the human mind. However one thing thing that caught my mind is Multiverse. With inflation now pointing towards a possible multiverse, is it possible that enery between the different Universes are being exchanged during the birth and the death of the Universes???

Of course this question holds true for only those scientists who think Multiverse could be sonething to think about...
  
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Re: Cyclic Universe - 10-26-2007, 03:22 PM

Hi Dipayankar;

Another interesting question.

I believe in an antimatter parallel universe, to reestablish symmetry in the big bang theory.
If that's the case then no sharing.

There are a number of different multiverse theories, and if the physical laws don't prohibit them from sharing, then why not.

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Re: Cyclic Universe - 10-26-2007, 03:31 PM

Good idea...

But even in a antimatter parallel Universe, suppose, just suppose if the quarks actually reverse their spin during transfer from our Universe to an anti matter Universe, then possibly you still could share....

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Another interesting question.

I believe in an antimatter parallel universe, to reestablish symmetry in the big bang theory.
If that's the case then no sharing.

There are a number of different multiverse theories, and if the physical laws don't prohibit them from sharing, then why not.

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What do you mean by "reestablish symmetry in the big bang theory"? Do you mean to answer the question as to why the laws of nature favour matter over antimatter?
  
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Re: Cyclic Universe - 10-26-2007, 03:47 PM

I saw an interesting blog from AntonioLao on why matter is dominant over anti matter. Go through it please...



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