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    Re: What is inflation and why do we need it?

    hi John
    i dont think a volume of space can exist without containing energy in some form as it wouldnt be space but what is space if it has no energy

    thanks and hello Swoarg

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    Re: What is inflation and why do we need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by force5 View Post
    A simple question.

    Can a volume of space exist without containing energy in some form?

    Thanks, John
    Good question, John.

    I'd say no. There exists something called the vacuum energy density. In fact this has a lot to do with our current monthly theme: the vacuum energy density is often called "dark energy." This is the energy that is causing the acceleration of the expansion of the universe. See here for a nice discussion.

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    Re: What is inflation and why do we need it?

    Now I'm confused.

    "space has no boundary"

    ...conservation of energy vs. no boundary, if you agree with me on the "space/energy" issue.


    please solve this problem I have with "no boundary".

    Thanks for your input.

    John

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    Re: What is inflation and why do we need it?

    thanks neutralino that was very interesting to read pleased you posted it

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    Re: What is inflation and why do we need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by swoarg View Post
    hi John
    i dont think a volume of space can exist without containing energy in some form as it wouldnt be space but what is space if it has no energy

    thanks and hello Swoarg
    IMHO, in a word, "non-existent".

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    Re: What is inflation and why do we need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by force5 View Post
    A simple question.

    Can a volume of space exist without containing energy in some form?

    Thanks, John
    Now Force5, my opinion will be inappropriate and nontraditional, but I would like to respond. If say space/time had a start, and the formula was V=(4pi(-r)^3)/3 with -r starting at zero and growing into infinity. This leaving the space/time self contained at this point in a "unwavedlength" form. Thus no energy.

    Now say -r stops at a certain number, say 14 billion just for fun, creating a 'hypothetical singularity'. From this 'hypothetical singularity', a wave is added to the "unwavedlength" to become a 'wavelength' of what ever frequency fits the science of the early big bang theory. Thus energy.

    So I would personally say that all space/time has energy since the BB but when the volume ("unwavedlength") of the Universe was being created, it had no energy.

    I posted this for something to do, and I am OK with it being deleted by the moderator.
    Real / Motion = Reality!

    Real: Potential of Infinity for Eternity.
    Motion: Resonating of Synchronicity for Evolution.
    Reality: Formation of Space for Time.

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    Re: What is inflation and why do we need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoPpAScience View Post
    Now Force5, my opinion will be inappropriate and nontraditional, but I would like to respond. If say space/time had a start, and the formula was V=(4pi(-r)^3)/3 with -r starting at zero and growing into infinity. This leaving the space/time self contained at this point in a "unwavedlength" form. Thus no energy.

    Now say -r stops at a certain number, say 14 billion just for fun, creating a 'hypothetical singularity'. From this 'hypothetical singularity', a wave is added to the "unwavedlength" to become a 'wavelength' of what ever frequency fits the science of the early big bang theory. Thus energy.

    So I would personally say that all space/time has energy since the BB but when the volume ("unwavedlength") of the Universe was being created, it had no energy.

    I posted this for something to do, and I am OK with it being deleted by the moderator.
    Hi Allen;

    I guess I have to reside in the camp that states that energy has always existed. Which of course implies that expansion/contraction rules the day. If there was a point in the past that the creation of energy occured, I can't rap my small mind around that concept without major modifications to my fundamental beliefs. IMHO, the sum of all energy has always existed and always will.

    note: It has to, because I'm to old to scrap my ideas and start all over from scratch.

    Thanks for your reply.

    John

 

 
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