[RascalPuff]

"Our sun at the center of our solar system is just one star among billions in the Milky Way galaxy. Around us are billions and billions of galaxies. Where could this entire universe come from? Was it always this way or did the universe have a beginning? The church has always believed that the universe came from a moment of creation - a time when the universe began.

Meanwhile, scientists developed two theories: the Big Bang and the Steady State theories. In this century, science has come to understand how the universe began from a tiny point, fifteen billion years ago.

No matter how incredible it sounds, it seems that the church's ideas of a moment of creation were right from the beginning."

-STEPHEN HAWKING'S UNIVERSE,
Volume I, Program II: The Big Bang
Copyright 1997
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Meanwhile, the Big Bang advocates and apologists, have hewn out rationalizations for why there is presently no common center from which 'the expanding universe', is expanding... ('The center is everywhere'.)

Under these convuluted circumstances, a return to the Steady State universe seems imminent.

(Increasingly dense background radiation is the signature of any expanding universe scenario.)

May readers draw their own conclusions...

Best regards,
- RP

[b1rdman]

If you close your eyes and someone places you and 9 other people at a starting point and says walk for 15 minutes, then open your eyes and tell me where you began, tell me the likelihood of finding your starting point.

A lack of knowing the starting point does not mean there wasn't one.

Just my $.02

[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by b1rdman If you close your eyes and someone places you and 9 other people at a starting point and says walk for 15 minutes, then open your eyes and tell me where you began, tell me the likelihood of finding your starting point. A lack of knowing the starting point does not mean there wasn't one. Just my $.02

Ok, birdman. Yer loud and clear. I see what you mean.
Whereas, in this case, it's just one starting point and one person.
Whether a person could backtrack or not may depend on the touraine, of course.