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02-15-2006, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by harmonygirl we are racing towards death and dying | you mean by choice? Not me. I listen to my doctor but there are some inevitableness to death and dying.
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02-15-2006, 01:35 PM
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Antonio, I guess I was speaking of us as a species. If we are not the ones inventing destruction, we are standing by and letting it happen. You are likely exceptional in being healthy. I hope that I am as well (I try to eat only organically) but we are, as a species, destroying our own environment, that's what I meant by racing towards death. It's a choice in the sense that we allow it to happen (either by electing people who will have destruction on the top of their agenda or by allowing processes to exist that don't allow us to have a direct say in what our representatives are doing). I actually think of this as step backwards, evolution-wise. We are less asute than our ancestors.
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Originally Posted by harmonygirl We are less asute than our ancestors. | You mean we are not as smart subjectively or personally? But we know more objectively or collectively?
The way I think about this is that human mentality goes with the tide of science and technology although many still live in the past and refuse to be carried away by the the tidal wave of progress. Overall effect is that humanity improves its own lot as a sign of emergence for self-organization into a more complex dissipative system which unavoidably needs more energy for its sustainance.
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Originally Posted by AntonioLao You mean we are not as smart subjectively or personally? But we know more objectively or collectively?
The way I think about this is that human mentality goes with the tide of science and technology although many still live in the past and refuse to be carried away by the the tidal wave of progress. Overall effect is that humanity improves its own lot as a sign of emergence for self-organization into a more complex dissipative system which unavoidably needs more energy for its sustainance. | Is that why we need fusion power then Antonio,to feed our greed
for power?
kind regards michael.
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Antonio, I hadn't considered whether it was an objective or subjective knowledge that I was talking about. Our ancestors did not destroy their own environment and we do. I guess if I had to pick one, I would say objectively, we are less astute. I think we might be talking about different kinds of knowledge. Definitely we know more things, but are using them to destroy ourselves. Ultimately, wouldn't that make us less astute?
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Originally Posted by AntonioLao Now, can we all agree that reality and existence are multi-dimensional? The degree of dimension is equivalent to the degree of freedom. And something dynamic (subjected to the influence of forces) can exist in each level of existence. The maximum speed of motion in each level is limited equal to lightspeed but to travel between levels superluminal speed is required.
At the human level of existence, its maximum attainable dimension is approximately  but can the human race ever reach this level? To reach this level means that each person is connected to each of the billions of people of the world. For example, knowing their names and speaking their languages, adapting to their culture, and foremost be able to make sensible communication with each person and still be constraint by space and time. Since not everyone can be at the same place and the same time it seems impossible to achieve maximum connectedness of the highest dimension. | Is that really so Antonio!It really depends on the depth ofyour awareness?when youare in a state of absolute awareness,then you are in
effect ominipresent!And can then most surely be everywhere at the same time,we are all interconnected and at one,but we lack the depth and the perception,of our present state of consciusness,to fully realise this.
kind regards michael.
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Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Is that why we need fusion power | The need is not personal but societal. Mr. Spock said: 'The need of the many outweighs the need of the one' Star Trek - the Wrath of Khan 1982. Quote: |
Originally Posted by harmonygirl wouldn't that make us less astute? | Being clever has its limit but certainly we can't just keep on re-inventing the wheel.
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