dimensional evolution

AntonioLao · **dimensional evolution -** 04-06-2005, 12:10 PM

is the universe going thru a dimensional evolution? Is it growing?15 billions years ago, it is just a point. Now, it is a complex isolated thermodynamic system at thermal equilibrium between it gravitational energy and expansion energy, which was verified by NASA's COBE satellite in 1989. This dynamic equilibrium is exactly identical to the curve of blackbody radiation.

If it were at zero dimensions at time zero, what would be its dimension today? In 1912, Poincare demanded a precise definition: his name indicates that he did care about zero-dimension points, Poin (time) care, but time was removed from his name, his mortality prevented him from making a proper definition. He noted that a line is 1D because 2 points on the line can be cut and separated by a 0D point. By inductive reasoning, a space is n-dimensional if any two points can be disconnected by removing exactly (n-1)-dimensional subset. If we start by assuming that these 2 points are 2 0D objects then their connection is the 1D string. If the points are n-dimension then the connection is (n+1)-dimension. From this brief description, it may be surmiced that a proper dimension is just equal to the number of connections between points.

AntonioLao · **dimension of the human race -** 04-06-2005, 12:27 PM

by analogy, Darwin's theory of evolution may be abstracted into a dimensional evolution for the human race.

The number of people on the face of the earth is estimated at 6,377,641,642.
The proper dimension of the human race is calculated to be the same as the number of possible (but not realistic due to age, language, and cultural differences) connections between these number of people.

$D=\frac{(6377641642)(6377641641)}{2}=2.03371565 \times 10^{19}$

The proper dimension of Homo sapiens is about $2 \times 10^{19}$

yogi · 04-08-2005, 10:59 AM

To all in general,

Please check the site called http://www.virtualchaos.org/ . This site contain some good discussion on science and philosophy involved for solving or pointing toward theory of everything. This site also has narrative about spatial dimension and it's integration with philosophy.This is my opinion, but please do browse thru other topics and have your opinion and understanding.

sincerely,
yogi

AntonioLao · 04-08-2005, 11:49 AM

Now, can we all agree that reality and existence are multi-dimensional? The degree of dimension is equivalent to the degree of freedom. And something dynamic (subjected to the influence of forces) can exist in each level of existence. The maximum speed of motion in each level is limited equal to lightspeed but to travel between levels superluminal speed is required.

At the human level of existence, its maximum attainable dimension is approximately $2 \times 10^{19}$ but can the human race ever reach this level? To reach this level means that each person is connected to each of the billions of people of the world. For example, knowing their names and speaking their languages, adapting to their culture, and foremost be able to make sensible communication with each person and still be constraint by space and time. Since not everyone can be at the same place and the same time it seems impossible to achieve maximum connectedness of the highest dimension.

mkirkpatrick · 02-13-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AntonioLao

Now, can we all agree that reality and existence are multi-dimensional? The degree of dimension is equivalent to the degree of freedom. And something dynamic (subjected to the influence of forces) can exist in each level of existence. The maximum speed of motion in each level is limited equal to lightspeed but to travel between levels superluminal speed is required.

At the human level of existence, its maximum attainable dimension is approximately $2 \\times 10^{19}$ but can the human race ever reach this level? To reach this level means that each person is connected to each of the billions of people of the world. For example, knowing their names and speaking their languages, adapting to their culture, and foremost be able to make sensible communication with each person and still be constraint by space and time. Since not everyone can be at the same place and the same time it seems impossible to achieve maximum connectedness of the highest dimension.

Antonio,we are all
interconnected are we not,and is not an idea in transit,equal to superluminal
speed?Just a thought!
regards michael.

AntonioLao · **to connect or not that is the question -** 02-14-2006, 01:30 PM

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interconnected are we not

If I am hungry, I will find food to eat. So I wont be having discussion in this forum. I am connected if and only if all the basic needs are satisfied. Looking back at Maslow's hierarchy of needs it seems that most people are situated at the bottom level and I also find myself at this level.

harmonygirl · **Maslow, Shmaslow... -** 02-14-2006, 05:58 PM

Antonio, I have never fully subscribed to Maslow's hierarchy but I'll go along. How would this aid in the theory of universal dimensional evolution (which I understand is different from simple expansion)? I'm not sure I agree it's a choice as to whether to connect. I think once you figure out how to do this, you feel it's necessary to do (or maybe you take joy in your ability or delight in your own power, but the result is the same-an almost irresistable impulse).

mkirkpatrick · **dimension=conscious perception, -** 02-14-2006, 06:33 PM

I do not see that there is a choice about being connected and interconnected
as far as I am concerned we are,and have to accept,that what is,we can as the
old saying goes to"kick against the pricks",but this particular prick has had enough?I think that we will find that it is not dimensions that are evolving,but
rather consciousness and mental and spritual perceptions,when our under-
standing evolves enough,we will see that there are really NO dimensions at all?
they are just another imposter like its cousin Time,we will phase into a
consciousness that is aware of just HERE andNOW which are eternal and
constant,prehaps another word for dimension could be conscious perception!

kind regards michael.

AntonioLao · 12:05 PM

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How would this aid in the theory of universal dimensional evolution

Cosmologically, the expansion is an evolving or growing reality in the the Newtonian deterministic sense. Thermodynamically, the expansion makes no sense since zero temperature and maximum entropy both mean death for the universe. So if the universe is a sentient being why would it move toward death and dying? But in chaotic systems, there is no memory of any prior state probability, its process direction is independent, random, and it can go anywhere.

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I do not see that there is a choice about being connected and interconnected

Although teleconferencing is quite possible and often used by corporate meetings, real fun connection can be enjoyable if and only if there is one listener and one talker. An idealized situation would be million of listeners and only one talker as when a head of state is making a speech. But many do choose not to listen or listen with a tint of prejudgment.

harmonygirl · **we are all lemmings! -** 02-15-2006, 12:08 PM

Antonio, we are sentient and we are racing towards death and dying. Not only by polluting our environment with toxins but by channelling new discoveries to our own destruction (A-bomb, fusion, gunpowder, etc). I don't know why the universe as a sentient being would be any wiser.