ToeQuest

We're going on a TOE Quest!


Register

Reply

Raider of the lost time

AntonioLao's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,934
Blog Entries: 6
85 AntonioLao is a name known to allAntonioLao is a name known to allAntonioLao is a name known to all
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
08-10-2005, 10:20 PM
continuity begins

When one tries to find the limit of a function one uses the infinitesimal difference between two infinitesimal numbers. This is not the same as finding the derivative of the function at a point of interest. Nevertheless the derivative is defined as the ratio of two infinitesimal differences where a limit exists as the denominator approaches zero. Yet the existence of this difference is based on an axiom of choice. That is to say we choose its existence not that it really exists at all! Therefore continuity is a consequence of the axiom of choice and the true essence of reality is quantized. It really is a quantum universe that we live in. It just appears continuous using Einstein’s general relativity because Einstein had chosen it to be so.

Reply With Quote
AntonioLao is offlineReport Post
Moderator

mkirkpatrick's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,647
Blog Entries: 4
102 mkirkpatrick has much to be proud ofmkirkpatrick has much to be proud ofmkirkpatrick has much to be proud ofmkirkpatrick has much to be proud ofmkirkpatrick has much to be proud ofmkirkpatrick has much to be proud of
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
02-04-2007, 04:00 AM
Smile Re: continuity begins

Antonio,it is indeed a quantum universe,one that exists because we think it does?remove
consciousness from the universe,and there is no universe-period!



regards michael.
__________________
Humilty,coupled with boldness,surprises truth to
reveal herself?
Reply With Quote
mkirkpatrick is offlineReport Post
2nd degree Black Belt

Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 330
Blog Entries: 7
11 theunify is on a distinguished road
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
02-04-2007, 08:26 AM
Re: continuity begins

Antonio, another aspect of your theory; or rather to phrase it What is the quantum nature of quantum nature?

You see Antonio, it is quite easy for us as humans to look at an ant hill and say all ants are individual's and we can count them; but what about the infant ants, what about the ants with deformities such as no head, or no abdomen, what about the rare occurance of siemese ants? So you see Antonio, the world really is a quantum reality, but the quantum reality is actually continuous. The paradox is that we have the choice, the choice to make the logical decision to define infinitesimalility as reality yet also realizing the non reversable nature of choice, which leads to the opposite being true for the world once we actually seek out these quantum states.

This is not philosphy, the fact is we can define quantum reality Universally, but we cannot reverse this to say that Universal reality quanta are defined.

The theory for this stems from the fact that we know Universal Units exist, and we know they change state, but when they change state we can only say this happens continuously until a new quantum state is reached.

Perhaps the lack of information of the change of quantum states reveals a higher power mathematically. Our scaler reality and we seem to be at the basement.
__________________
Reply With Quote
theunify is offlineReport Post
9th degree Black Belt

Lloyd Gillespie's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,579
Blog Entries: 3
27 Lloyd Gillespie has a spectacular aura about
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
02-05-2007, 12:26 AM
Re: continuity begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by AntonioLao View Post
When one tries to find the limit of a function one uses the infinitesimal difference between two infinitesimal numbers. This is not the same as finding the derivative of the function at a point of interest. Nevertheless the derivative is defined as the ratio of two infinitesimal differences where a limit exists as the denominator approaches zero. Yet the existence of this difference is based on an axiom of choice. That is to say we choose its existence not that it really exists at all! Therefore continuity is a consequence of the axiom of choice and the true essence of reality is quantized. It really is a quantum universe that we live in. It just appears continuous using Einstein’s general relativity because Einstein had chosen it to be so.
Antonio, epistemologically you are correct to say the universe is quantum, but that is only the expression of the limit of our knowledge. If one looks deeper still into the quantum well and the uncertainty principle, one may see the impossiblility of knowledge beyond these limits, but absolutely true infintesimals extend far below h. The true infintesimals can be understood to exist just by adding real substance to any guage theory, i.e., take Zeno's distance paradox, and simply change the paradox to the division of substance to the same infintesimal. Any substance infintesimally divided to any number approaching infinity, or infinity iff possible, and you still have substance. This solves many infintesimal paradoxes, iff applied correctly. And as to the universe being known to be quantum, entirely, that is an epistemological unknown, however; the ground state in the quantum well may not be the absolute universal ground state. As a matter of fact, the way many quantum mechanicists calculate this fundamental state at the stage of the big-bang, would have been, as David has stated, some 10^-69^3, and I would concur that it is somewhere between this arbitrary figure and or lower/higher. Iff this be true, then isn't it possible for this universal linear ground state to still exist, below h, and within all h and h+? I think physics had best look a bit deeper. We asked this question of our physics teacher in high school. She didn't deny the possibility, just because of the lack of true knowledge of the truest quantum state. How far below h before we find the true absolute universal ground state of base fundamental, linear only, substance...?

I don't accept IF, NO and Maybe=Einstein, Heisenberg and Godel, the world's three most famous metaphysical physicists/mathematicians... I accept only the absolute physical truth of substance motions. All modern gauge theories have holes in them, big enough to drive a thousand Mack trucks through. Just to show you___prove where quantum motion and substance originate, instead of just accepting the axiom of choice. Another is to prove how quantum cognition and quantum memory function, without a solid state fluid of absolute linear sebstance, to store the "I" of cognition, and the "now" continuous state of memory, especially absolute coherence vision memories...? I know most physicists/mathematicians like to ignore these holes in the quantum theories, but they must be answered, for them to have true meaning...

Regards,
Lloyd
__________________
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the cesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
Reply With Quote
Lloyd Gillespie is offlineReport Post
2nd degree Black Belt

Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 330
Blog Entries: 7
11 theunify is on a distinguished road
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
02-05-2007, 01:26 AM
Re: continuity begins

guage theory - A concept used in field theory to describe a field for which the equations describing the field do not change when some operation is aplied to all particles everywhere in space ( it is also pissible to have local symmetry, where the operation is applied in some particular region).
The term 'guage' simply means 'measure', and the point is that fields with guage symmetry can be regauged (or remasured) from different baselines without affecting their properties.
The classic* example is gravity. Imagine a ball sitting on a step on a staircase. It has a certain amount of gravitational potential energy. If the ball moves down to another step on the staircase, it loses a specific amount of gravitational energy, which depends only on the strength of the gravitational field and the difference in height of the two steps. You can measure the gravitational potential energy from anywhere you like. It is usual to measure from either the surface of the Earth or the centre of the Earth as your baseline, but you could choose any of the steps, or any point anywhere in the Universe as zero for your measurements. The point is the difference in energy between two steps will always be the same, no matter how you regauge your baseline. So gravity is a guage theory.
*Take from The Quantum World From A to Z. Gribbon.
__________________
Reply With Quote
theunify is offlineReport Post
9th degree Black Belt

Lloyd Gillespie's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,579
Blog Entries: 3
27 Lloyd Gillespie has a spectacular aura about
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
02-05-2007, 02:37 AM
Re: continuity begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by theunify View Post
guage theory - A concept used in field theory to describe a field for which the equations describing the field do not change when some operation is aplied to all particles everywhere in space ( it is also pissible to have local symmetry, where the operation is applied in some particular region).
The term 'guage' simply means 'measure', and the point is that fields with guage symmetry can be regauged (or remasured) from different baselines without affecting their properties.
The classic* example is gravity. Imagine a ball sitting on a step on a staircase. It has a certain amount of gravitational potential energy. If the ball moves down to another step on the staircase, it loses a specific amount of gravitational energy, which depends only on the strength of the gravitational field and the difference in height of the two steps. You can measure the gravitational potential energy from anywhere you like. It is usual to measure from either the surface of the Earth or the centre of the Earth as your baseline, but you could choose any of the steps, or any point anywhere in the Universe as zero for your measurements. The point is the difference in energy between two steps will always be the same, no matter how you regauge your baseline. So gravity is a guage theory.
*Take from The Quantum World From A to Z. Gribbon.
And, what are the real and exact substance motions that create gravity, may I ask...?

I believe the thread is about the continuity of the quantum state of the universe...is it not?

regards,
__________________
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the cesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
Reply With Quote
Lloyd Gillespie is offlineReport Post
2nd degree Black Belt

Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 330
Blog Entries: 7
11 theunify is on a distinguished road
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
02-05-2007, 04:21 AM
Re: continuity begins

I'm working on some youtube videos explaining my theory; I'll be posting them on my web www.theunificationtheory.com in a couple weeks. I can't get into it with word but you are encouraged to read my book in the Articles section if you'd like it has my ideas on where gravity comes from, the continuity part comes in when you ask the question "How do photons travel?" travel may not be the right word.
__________________
Reply With Quote
theunify is offlineReport Post
Moderator

mkirkpatrick's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,647
Blog Entries: 4
102 mkirkpatrick has much to be proud ofmkirkpatrick has much to be proud ofmkirkpatrick has much to be proud ofmkirkpatrick has much to be proud ofmkirkpatrick has much to be proud ofmkirkpatrick has much to be proud of
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
02-05-2007, 12:30 PM
Smile Re: continuity begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by theunify View Post
I'm working on some youtube videos explaining my theory; I'll be posting them on my web www.theunificationtheory.com in a couple weeks. I can't get into it with word but you are encouraged to read my book in the Articles section if you'd like it has my ideas on where gravity comes from, the continuity part comes in when you ask the question "How do photons travel?" travel may not be the right word.
Thats interesting Jon,what word do you think is better fitting than "travel"?


regards michael.
__________________
Humilty,coupled with boldness,surprises truth to
reveal herself?
Reply With Quote
mkirkpatrick is offlineReport Post
2nd degree Black Belt

Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 330
Blog Entries: 7
11 theunify is on a distinguished road
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
02-05-2007, 05:39 PM
Re: continuity begins

reproduce, divide, multiply
__________________
Reply With Quote
theunify is offlineReport Post
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
spacetime begins AntonioLao Time Travel 7 10-26-2007 05:26 PM
let the spin begins AntonioLao Your TOE Theory 10 08-04-2005 09:15 PM
Zeeman begins AntonioLao Your TOE Theory 4 07-31-2005 03:51 PM
QED begins AntonioLao Quantum Physics 0 07-26-2005 10:08 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:28 AM. Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 VBulletin Skin by ForumMonkeys.