What is consciousness made of?

[Drifter]

Computers,what do they know?

regards michael.

I M P E R I E N C E Concept
Imperience is a word coined by Pujya. Dr. K.C.Varadachari to distinguish it from experience. Experience is a feeling / knowledge that arise due to external / outside inputs. Imperience is the wisdom gained on contemplation on the deep states of non-concentration concentration (Absorbency).
Based on their programming? Impathy, as defined above.

They can then be programmed to react, e.g. shoot or release.imho

[mkirkpatrick]

I M P E R I E N C E Concept
Imperience is a word coined by Pujya. Dr. K.C.Varadachari to distinguish it from experience. Experience is a feeling / knowledge that arise due to external / outside inputs. Imperience is the wisdom gained on contemplation on the deep states of non-concentration concentration (Absorbency).
Based on their programming? Impathy, as defined above.

They can then be programmed to react, e.g. shoot or release.imho

Thats a new word for me Drifter,have gained a new insight today!

regards michael.

[Drifter]

SRI RAMCHANDRA CONSCIOUSNESS
There is a Flow of energy in a form that is subtler than light and / or sound arising from the supra cosmic levels of existence. Some according to their belief and convention call this as the flow from the Base, Brahman, Absolute, Ultimate or God. It would suffice to say that it is from That or it (Tam). The Flow is observed in the supra cosmic, cosmic planes and it travels in its purity even in the worlds of space, time, energy and matter. This Flow alone is the cause for holding the Universe together and therefore it has been called Life Force or Prana.

Life in this earth is essentially a balance between the force Prana (dynamic) and the force of Kal (matter or inertia). To overcome the inertia in expressing the dynamic unity of existence by the Kal force, the Pranic force always descends and brings about a dynamic equilibrium.

The force of Prana is superior in nature and capacity to the force of Mind, which is not able to meet the challenges of matter. Further mind itself is one, which enjoys intricate puzzles and problems and takes everything as a game.

Earth, the planet we occupy is unfortunately a warring planet. Any period of peace is invariably followed by one of conflict and war. It is the nature of life to have life and death, joy and suffering. Further, as we know life starts with weeping and ends with weeping and the joy or happiness is only a phase in between. If this Earth has to be made heavenly, it is necessary that our consciousness should reside at the Pranic plane, that is, a plane beyond that of matter, mind and soul.

The Life Force or Prana has been expressing itself at different levels of consciousness to help maintain balance. The task of balancing was and is being entrusted to entities who have progressed in Life and reached the super fine states of consciousness with full awareness and such entities or souls are working at different planes of existence. They are the Masters who do the task of maintaining the balance in the Cosmic and Super Cosmic regions. There have been and are, Masters in all the four corners of the Universe but all express only the Supreme Life Force or Prana.

Surrender in totality to the WILL OF THE SUPREME LIFE FORCE is the ORDER to which the Masters belong. They have no personal will whatsoever and their consciousness is controlled and maintained by the Pranic force. Such is the Order to which Lord Krishna, Lord Rama, Lord Buddha, Jesus Christ, Prophet Mohammad, Sri Ramchandra of Fatehgarh, and Sri Ramchandra of Shahjahanpur belong. It may be observed that there is a common thread running through all their spiritual life and teachings. Though we may mention these personalities and many more and show them as roots, the Spiritual Order is the most ancient and in fact Timeless. Thus we may say that Sri Ramchandraji Maharaj of Shahjahanpur is the Sanatana Purusha. His message and teaching is LIVING.

There exists always a Living Master not necessarily in the Physical Plane to ensure the message of Life Force to be available for all those who seek it. Sri Ramchandraji of Shahjahanpur is the latest among these Masters and is the LIVING MASTER in the Astral Plane, is also entrusted with the task of overhauling the nature of human consciousness by even utilizing the force of Kal. Though in the plane of Earth, Kal is negative of Life or Prana, it should be understood that Kal itself is the other side of the expression of the original Life Force.

When we use the term Sri Ramchandra Consciousness we mean that Life Force which is eternal. The nature of that consciousness is PURE, UNALLOYED LOVE that does not distinguish between any entities of the Creation. It is for the present emanates from the Heart of the Master that can be best described as Golden. The Flow emanating from the Original Source channeled through His Heart is a continuous flow of happiness that knows no limitations and that is experienced as the waves of the Ocean of Blisss by those who yield to the Master of the day.

This is what we enjoy or experience as PRANAHUTI .

PRANAHUTI AIDED MEDITATION (P.A.M) The system of Pranahuti Aided Meditation consists of two parts. One is the practicant's role and other is the master's support. In no other system that we are aware of, we have this direct support of another person in the meditation. They give perhaps a mantra or tell a particular method of practising and the role of the supporter or the master ends there. The guru disciple relationship continues for a long time, perhaps for a life time for that person but still it is only an occasional meet and no discussion what so ever is generally held on the spiritual aspect of the life. Except the external behavioural aspect nobody talks about the internal things. There are some who had developed certain intimacy with the gurus and perhaps also knew certain elementary aspects of sadhana but beyond that they said guru is god and he will guide you through.

In our sadhana, because of his level of approach a person who moves on in his yatra to the level of Brahmand, (i.e. when he is not confined to his Pind Desh or selfish interests) he moves on to the level of the parahita alone and is permitted to impart spiritual training.

Parahita actually means trying to do good to others all the time. This as a behavioural attitude may be possible for any person to develop. He need not develop to that level. Social service does not require a man to be at the Brahmanda level. But when a person feels his presence else where than his own body, when he goes out of his body consciousness, when the boundaries of his body consciousness expand, he is supposed to have entered into the Brahmand. A person who feels confined to his body, who is concerned about his body and its needs, he is definitely a man concerned to his Pind Desh or the physical level. He is confined to the jiva. So those of the people who are not able to go beyond the physical cannot confuse themselves thinking that they are at the higher plane of consciousness.

[theunify]

It's a belief of myself we are all able to live that way... when auto's are banned the masses will rediscover the Earth. But we will have high speed mass transit to travel .

~theunify

Surrender in totality to the WILL OF THE SUPREME LIFE FORCE is the ORDER to which the Masters belong. They have no personal will whatsoever and their consciousness is controlled and maintained by the Pranic force. Such is the Order to which Lord Krishna, Lord Rama, Lord Buddha, Jesus Christ, Prophet Mohammad, Sri Ramchandra of Fatehgarh, and Sri Ramchandra of Shahjahanpur belong. It may be observed that there is a common thread running through all their spiritual life and teachings. Though we may mention these personalities and many more and show them as roots, the Spiritual Order is the most ancient and in fact Timeless. Thus we may say that Sri Ramchandraji Maharaj of Shahjahanpur is the Sanatana Purusha. His message and teaching is LIVING.

[Rybo]

No rybo I am not saying that(That thinking is not part of consciousness).none occupied space cannot exist in this universe,in another,well maybe.
thanks for your comments.regards michael.

Micaheal, I did not say that non-ocupied space exists with our finite physical universe. I think you misunderstand or misread my comments.

The macro-infinite, non-occupied space exists beyond the finite physical universe( occupied space ) and I have stated this several times repeately here since returning a few months ago.

The word I use for m both the non-occupied universe and the finite physical universe, is "U"niverse. This also I have states in differrent topics here since returning.

Not sure where you got the idea of non-occupie space within our finite physical universe.

Rybo

[mkirkpatrick]

Micaheal, I did not say that non-ocupied space exists with our finite physical universe. I think you misunderstand or misread my comments.

The macro-infinite, non-occupied space exists beyond the finite physical universe( occupied space ) and I have stated this several times repeately here since returning a few months ago.

The word I use for m both the non-occupied universe and the finite physical universe, is "U"niverse. This also I have states in differrent topics here since returning.

Not sure where you got the idea of non-occupie space within our finite physical universe.

Rybo

thanks rybo,no I was saying that none occupied space does not exist in this universe,sorry if you thought that I had implied you had said that,a little misunderstanding.

regards michael.

[Rybo]

thanks rybo,no I was saying that none occupied space does not exist in this universe,sorry if you thought that I had implied you had said that,a little misunderstanding. regards michael.

Ok, thanks for clarification. I'm having problem in another group where the person is constantly infering/implying statements and concepts by that I never stated or intended. Very frustrating.

However, there is another clarification in this concept as stated. It involves tubes and tori i.e. if the finite physical universe, has is defined by the a bunch of overlalpping tubes, ---overlapping tori--- kind of like a 3D pretzel, then we may say that, the micro-infinite,non-occupied space may exist between the tubes, and not in the physical tubes of occupied space.

The key word here is "between". Took me a few yrs how to state this correctly, because, the non-occupied space is within the volume parameters of the whole pretzel but not part of the physical density aspects of the physical tubes.

If were to get into the toplogical manifolds, this could become even more complicated scenarios but I've yet to go there because of the complications involved and I like my universe concepts simple as possible.

Rybo

[mkirkpatrick]

Ok, thanks for clarification. I'm having problem in another group where the person is constantly infering/implying statements and concepts by that I never stated or intended. Very frustrating.

However, there is another clarification in this concept as stated. It involves tubes and tori i.e. if the finite physical universe, has is defined by the a bunch of overlalpping tubes, ---overlapping tori--- kind of like a 3D pretzel, then we may say that, the micro-infinite,non-occupied space may exist between the tubes, and not in the physical tubes of occupied space.

The key word here is "between". Took me a few yrs how to state this correctly, because, the non-occupied space is within the volume parameters of the whole pretzel but not part of the physical density aspects of the physical tubes.

If were to get into the toplogical manifolds, this could become even more complicated scenarios but I've yet to go there because of the complications involved and I like my universe concepts simple as possible.

Rybo

I know that feeling only too well rybo,the hazards of posting I suppose!

regards michael.

[jag]

the difficulty arises in attempting to explain the unexplainable! Thats why many eastern teachings suggest that one accepts that it just IS,and that explainations are futile and foolish,I partly agree with this,however I do my best at pushing the envelope so to speak and see where the bulge takes me? the thing is we use words like "space" and then try to define it,my view is that there is no space anywhere and the very notion of it is absurd,I see the entire universe absolutely filled to the "brim" with energy/consciousness,we are fooled by our senses into believing that there is empty space when there is none,it is an illusion or as Einstein once said "A very persistent one".

regards michael.

I completely agree with you michael that trying to understand and express an explanation of what consciousness is made of is not a fools' errand...weather or not it is futile, well, I guess the jury is still out on that one.

I believe that the 'Prana' that Drifter talks about in post #35 is your 'pure energy'. The only impurity at this level is time...take away time and you have 'is'. This cosmic force embraces all energies deriving from the Unqualified Absolute but which are as yet unresponsive to time-gravity.

Pure energy/Prana embraces those energies which are responsive to time gravity but are as yet unresponsive to linear gravity. This is the pre-electronic level of energy-matter.

Consciousness includes all forms of energy which, while still responding to time gravity, are directly responsive to linear gravity. This is the electronic level of energy-matter and all subsequent evolutions thereof.

Pattern, i.e. vortical motion, may configure energy, but does not control it. Gravity is the sole control of energy-matter. The reality of any pattern consists of its energies, its mind, spirit, or material parts.

The combined effect of time and linear gravity on energy is mass.

'Time line of consciousness'

1. "IS"
2. Time gravity patterns or Pure energy/Prana.
3. Linear gravity
4. Electronic level of energy-matter...reaction, instinct,
subjective self consciousness,mind and spirit.

It is a lot more difficult to understand looking back in time. It takes a leap of faith to see the 'One' in the 'Now' and then add time and then add linear gravity and finally see the electronic level of energy-matter from the other side of time. The first thing that I noticed was that everything science knows about the energy patterns of the cosmos and the subatomic world are being 'caused' by gravity.

jag

[Drifter]

CARRASCO'S OUTLINE OF CONTENTS, BY CHAPTER


Chapter 1. I am not this person, this body-mind, or any thing. --As I can't be what I perceive, I am not this body-mind or any thing that I am conscious of. --As there must be something unchanging to register discontinuity, I am not this body-mind, which is neither continuous nor permanent. --As the person is a changing stream of mental objects that I as the subject take to be my body-mind, I cannot be a person. I am, but I can't be this or that. --As it is my presence, which is always here and now, that gives the quality of actual to any event, I must be beyond time and space. I was never born, nor will ever die.
Chapter 2. I am the Self, the Witness of Consciousness, pure Awareness. --I am only the Self, which is universal and imagines itself to be the outer self, a person. --I am not an object in Consciousness but its source, its Witness, pure shapeless Awareness. --Only the feeling 'I am', though in the World, is not of the World nor can be denied.
Chapter 3a. The World exists only as a dream in my Consciousness: Part One --As I only know the contents of my consciousness, and as an outside world is unprovable, all perceivables are only in my mind. --Transient things only appear and have no substance. --What changes has no reality. Time and space are imagined, ways of thinking, modes of perception. Only timeless reality is, and it is here and now.
Chapter 3b. The World exists only as a dream in my Consciousness: Part Two --Whatever has a form is only limitations imagined in my consciousness. --The World is but a show, a make-belief. --The World I perceive is entirely private, a dream. --Desire and fear come from seeing the World as separate from my-Self. --While I see the dream as real, I'll suffer being its slave. --Nothing in the dream is done by me.
Chapter 4. There is only one dreamer, the one Self, dreaming many dreams. --In every body there is a dream, but the dreamer is the same, the one Self, which reflects itself in each body as 'I am'. --All the dreams are of a common imaginary World and influence each other. --Love is seeing the unity under the imaginary diversity.
Chapter 5. I alone am, the One, the Supreme. --Not only the multiplicity of selves is false: even the duality of I/World, Subject/Object, is a transient appearance in my Consciousness. --There is only my-Self, Consciousness. --I am not even Consciousness, which is dual and perceivable: I am the unknown Reality beyond. --Though unknown and unknowable, my real being is concrete and solid like a rock. --I am the light that makes Consciousness possible, pure Awareness, the non-dual Self, the Supreme Reality, the Absolute, the Beingness of being, the Awareness of consciousness.
Chapter 6a. The big cycle: part one --The alternation of manifested (existence, becoming) - unmanifested (pure being). --The manifestation of the Absolute.
Chapter 6b. The big cycle: part two --The return to the Absolute. --There are no real differences. Only the One is.

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