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Re: Imitation=Compliment, Plagiarism Something Else - 09-02-2007, 01:41 PM

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The steps from the starting point of oneness is equal to the first step and the last.
Oneness unites every step of truth.
The beginning is the end, and the end the beginning, as well as all the points between.
Oneness is equally every step, every point, everything.

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Dear MJA,

7 months ago, mkirkpatrick cited the words of Plato (427-347 B.C.).
Plato surely knew about the Oneness unveiled by Heraclitus (550-475 B.C.)
Plato wrote "For when a man knows not his own first principle, and when the conclusion and intermediate steps are also constructed out of he know what, how can he imagine that such a fabric of convention can ever become science?"

Plato as a great thinker still made differences on first principle, intermediate steps and conclusion.
He also praised human's effort to construct out the fabric of convention.
It seems that MJA you take yourself a thinker greater than Plato.

Guille (The Thinker) started a thread about Great Thinkers and the difference. Please have a look and continue to reply on the thread. http://www.toequest.com/forum/great-...diference.html

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Re: Imitation=Compliment, Plagiarism Something Else - 09-02-2007, 08:48 PM

Great Thinkers

If you want to be a great thinker, study the greats.

Some of my favorites in no particular order are:

Boethius, he saw the truth.
Socrates, came close to defining truth. He tried but never grasped it.
Aristotle, some say the greatest of all Saw oneness, but thought it not true.
Epicurus, epic, what a place to be.
Bible, "the truth shall set us free." Amen!
Spinoza, "there is only one substance God or Nature." Invented proofs
Descartes, "I think therefore I am." From a hotel in Ulm Germany, the same place Einstein was born.
Poincare, found resolve in coffee.
Hue-neng, Zen master about the nothing of nothing.
Milton Freidman, freedom of business.
Dr. King Jr. Freedom of Equality.
Plato, had trouble with cave people. "You cannot conceive the many without the one."
He knew our sences to be untrue, and thought only truth was attainable after death.
Shakespeare, "Be great in act, as you have been in thought."
Lincoln, held the union together through a war of division, WOW!
J Adams, Independence
Jefferson, The truth of equality.
Gandhi, died for equality.
Einstein, questioned measure, found Relativity, and came close to truth.
Thoreeau, The truth of nature.
Bertrand Russell, I learned the Old Greek from him.
Jane Goodall, Knows the truth.
Crazy Horse, My favorite Native American.
Buddha, About going back to the market place.
Nature, the truth.
The axial Age, was right on.
Pythagoras, "all things are numbers," Not!
Paramenides, "On Nature."
Copenhagen Interpitation, a group of great thinkers. They tried.
Master Chuang Tzu, very wise.
Nietzche, "the mountains of truth."
Mandella, Equality.
Dante, on love.
Seneca, Fortune.
Marcus Aurelius, Meditations.
Hawking, Very smart.
Hiesenberg, Questioned measure.
Capernicus, Moved the center of the universe. Double Wow!
Michelangelo, Study nature for truth.
Parsigis, Zen and the art.
Feynman, Democritus, and the list goes on and on.

But know one I believe knew the truth of everything, because if they had, we would be free.
That's coming soon!

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The truth of everything is less than one inch,
it is only equal and the lion is one.
One is free when the door is opened,
education has the key.
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Re: Imitation=Compliment, Plagiarism Something Else - 09-02-2007, 09:06 PM

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Great Thinkers

If you want to be a great thinker, study the greats.

Some of my favorites in no particular order are:

Boethius, he saw the truth.
Socrates, came close to defining truth. He tried but never grasped it.
Aristotle, some say the greatest of all Saw oneness, but thought it not true.
Epicurus, epic, what a place to be.
Bible, "the truth shall set us free." Amen!
Spinoza, "there is only one substance God or Nature." Invented proofs
Descartes, "I think therefore I am." From a hotel in Ulm Germany, the same place Einstein was born.
Poincare, found resolve in coffee.
Hue-neng, Zen master about the nothing of nothing.
Milton Freidman, freedom of business.
Dr. King Jr. Freedom of Equality.
Plato, had trouble with cave people. "You cannot conceive the many without the one."
He knew our sences to be untrue, and thought only truth was attainable after death.
Shakespeare, "Be great in act, as you have been in thought."
Lincoln, held the union together through a war of division, WOW!
J Adams, Independence
Jefferson, The truth of equality.
Gandhi, died for equality.
Einstein, questioned measure, found Relativity, and came close to truth.
Thoreeau, The truth of nature.
Bertrand Russell, I learned the Old Greek from him.
Jane Goodall, Knows the truth.
Crazy Horse, My favorite Native American.
Buddha, About going back to the market place.
Nature, the truth.
The axial Age, was right on.
Pythagoras, "all things are numbers," Not!
Paramenides, "On Nature."
Copenhagen Interpitation, a group of great thinkers. They tried.
Master Chuang Tzu, very wise.
Nietzche, "the mountains of truth."
Mandella, Equality.
Dante, on love.
Seneca, Fortune.
Marcus Aurelius, Meditations.
Hawking, Very smart.
Hiesenberg, Questioned measure.
Capernicus, Moved the center of the universe. Double Wow!
Michelangelo, Study nature for truth.
Parsigis, Zen and the art.
Feynman, Democritus, and the list goes on and on.

But know one I believe knew the truth of everything, because if they had, we would be free.
That's coming soon!

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MJA
Dear MJA:
Your spelling is as irreproachable as your list of distinguished persons and their achievements.
Your ostensibly ardent studies certainly know how to sharpen a point.

Best regards,
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(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
"Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
"Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
  
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Re: Imitation=Compliment, Plagiarism Something Else - 09-02-2007, 09:51 PM

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Great Thinkers

If you want to be a great thinker, study the greats.

MJA
Read many does not automatically imply study many.
Study many does not automatically imply comprehend many.
Comprehension does not automatically imply useful/groundbreaking ideas.
Ideas does not automatically imply worthy/workable models.
Models does not automatically imply conclusions.
Conclusions does not automatically imply implementations.

Oneness is not a good implementation. Oneness promotes Dictatorship (no difference) rather than Freedom (with differences, maintain own favorite differences).
Oneness and Freedom contradicts each other.
The fact that a person who promotes Oneness with Freedom as the reward is just a trick, a doublethink.
For doublethink, please read wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

If reading something is just to find selective supports to support yourself, the more reading, the more narrowed minds, not moving on.
(A non-thinker still feels the apparent moving on with his/her techniques, but actually without new/deep groundbreaking thinkings.)

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Re: Imitation=Compliment, Plagiarism Something Else - 01-19-2008, 11:31 PM

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(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
"Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
"Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
  
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Great thinkers all have one thing in common,they tap into that infinite pool of reality
that lies within us all,we have but to realise that great potential within,then tap into it!



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Re: Imitation=Compliment, Plagiarism Something Else - 06-03-2008, 03:05 AM

Rp I did go through the first few pages beginning and end here and it has been enlightening to say the least ... ethical research stands on its own foundation for growth, those that try to build without it have there creations soon fall to dust and those that try to build on your foundations without the ethics are building not with you but in a space as you get to it will just stamp out the creation like stepping on a cockroach intrusion and we know how long they have been around, right?

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