The Hazards of T.O.E. Questing

[theunify]

How is sanity going...I can only imagine how strange that must be.

~theunify

I think the main hazard to me so far has been in getting too far removed or isolated in my thoughts from the thoughts of others.
Not just in the content of those thoughts
but also in the context,
the scale of thoughts
speed of thoughts
and in the complexity of thoughts.

My response to this danger when I realised the seriousness of the risk
has been not to isolate myself in my uniqueness but to demonstrate my individual connectedness to the many.

However removed my thoughts may have been from others in their entirety the has always been some thread of connectivity, some common experience with which to establish both our sanities.

Two weeks ago tomorrow I had a dramatic encounter with our mental health system. Even being considered at risk of losing ones mind is a seriously dangerous place to find oneself in our modern diagnostic drug pushing society. I fortunately was able to extract myself without too much danger to me physically or to my reputation for saneness. I'll be much more alert to the potential for risk in the future.

[theunify]

Idea theifs are self limiting...photo copies of photo copies tend to fade to black....even if it appears less of a fade and more of a smudge..that's just because our eyes are able to process hot/cold, i.e. what we see as black can also be seen as white; upside down and backward...what we lack is the ability to see 3D, but we make up for it by having very large brains that reconstruct the missing dimension.

~theunify (P.S. you have to wonder what was sacraficed to give us the ability to see 3D, perhaps our brains will develope more if we wear 3D glasses our whole lives thereby freeing our brains of the creative processes)

I bring forward the starting post of this thread once again, because it speaks to me.

The developing nations seem poised to tackle the greatest challenges in my lifetime (having been born after the two world wars) and one of the difficulties as I see it, is that we lack leaders of great vision.

All focus appears to be on means to keep the existing systems functioning while paying lip service to changes for a better future. The two agendas do not seem compatible, as I try to model them from the historic perspective, within the confines of my limited and admittedly fallible mind. Better luck to them......

Perhaps one reason we are lacking leadership of vision lies not in the absence of such persons, merely that due to social pressures, they have abstained from high profile positions as are those in politics.

If there is a single useful function for the technology known as internet, it would be that such persons can now identifiy each other and perhaps share ideas and work at the ground level to establish those small first steps which may hold some hope for a change for the better, which governments seem to know not how to begin.

Of course one must work from at least the suspicion that any activity of change will be monitored by those same agencies and this is not without the concern of repercussion to some. At the worst, these agencies might even steal any ideas that are yielding positive result, to implement and claim as their own in the interests of re-election and personal gain.

Not that such would be such a bad idea if they are lacking any of their own.......

[SteveA]

A couple good questions could be 1) can the ability to learn be taught or 2) can we list or pre-enumerate all that arises from freedom or creativity?

It appears lists might be better at describing things NOT to do, much like death can be fit into little boxes but life is open ended. I believe purely deterministic/logical/algorithmic systems have their components instantly and forever related - there's no aspect of time/change present.

If a shared set of values could be communicated that was most inclusive and persistent over time, it could be that it only included (logical) DON'Ts and not (creative) DOs.

A space of all possibilities equally represented, has nothing asymmetric about it. If any form of non-random value was to arise from that, some form of asymmetry should be present. If the only algorithmic/deterministic/logical forms possible to precisely describe are also unchanging/non-growing etc. and don't include time/change, then the only set of values it would appear we could communicate about would be those static finite sets, which would exclude dynamics/growth etc. in time.

That closely resembles quantum mechanics as, it would appear that applying asymmetrical values to a uniform space of possibilities would generate nulls/zero-crossing in the "wavefunction" at points which were to be excluded.

A wavefunction might better be definitely as the point a photon will not be detected at. It's interesting to consider as well that such a view could give an effectively instantaneous description of time and not possess conventional "Uncertainty" (?!) - basically, though uncertainty may exist with regard to where a photon can be detected, there may be a manner of determining instantly where a photon will NOT be detected (and if there are only 2 possibilities, then that would make both oaths deterministic, hence to include a creative aspect of time, at least 3 paths would be required, of which 1 could be predetermined to not occur, giving a binary choice to the other 2 (or more) pathways).

Another consideration is that for a uniform space of any and all possibilities of all properties, there is no specific dimensionality present. A bias in these possibilities would need to exist and we could then assume that the dimensionality of a space arises from such excluded possibilities - by which an ability to bias the rest into a specific form arises. A decision to do one thing can also be seen as excluding something else.

Anyway, there are lots of interesting correlations along that line of thought ... 1 excluded property to generate a null in the wavefunction, giving rise to a (minimum) 1 to 2 asymmetry (1/3rd / 2/3rds as seen in quantum mechanics).

Though space is often referred to as 3 dimensional, there are only 2 dimensions of interaction available at any moment.

Yes, I'm likely rambling ... it's just a direction that appears to hold lots of possible matches.