Time And Relativity

[G_burnett]

in the event you describe of still time there is motion and exist. We do not destroy energy or create energy.

The structure halts. and the exist of that structure to our observation disperse because there is only cyclic motion of the object and the rest of our platform is in motion from point 'a' to point 'b' away from the linear drag or pulling along of the structure to varied degree. ... how much pulling is debatable measure but irrelevant to the structure event just doing according to it nature which ends with the expand across the x-plane ... back then
This process of ponder is time relativity of exist through space and what ever it may contain or be it measure and dimensioned as having gone through a period of time relative to our observation(s). There is the s again i do not like used in physics.
Kind regards graham

[greenbug]

We create energy by definition, by defining it. That we do not destroy our definitions is trivial, they change over time to fit what we experience.

Energy is movement and distance, Time is movement and rate.. That space is many distances and interchangeable with time then time is interchangeable with energy. So the question is when do you stop defining something as Time and start defining it as Energy?

I consider that if the distance is not in 3 dimensional space then it is no longer distance. It becomes time, by perception. Now in our larger version of relative physics this difference would be near difficult to observe. So what we observe is limited to a reality that is.

[G_burnett]

We create energy by definition, by defining it. .

we do not create energy by giving it a name. When we give a baste a name ... we control it, we have power over all the beasts of the field remember? ..

Energy is movement and distance, .

Energy is the ability to do work, it does not have to move to do this and at times distance is irrelevant.

Time is movement and rate.. .

Time is a dimension given to name how much work was done for the example.

So the question is when do you stop defining something as Time and start defining it as Energy?.

idk .. how about when you start your own universe?

I consider that if the distance is not in 3 dimensional space then it is no longer distance. .

just a function of a structure.

It becomes time, by perception..

no, just a set value with variation potential. (some actually forget to measure it right too)

what we observe is limited to a reality that is.

we got into this as the place where relativity stooped and QT takes over until my marry in the Toronic Concept thread.IMHO graham

[greenbug]

Energy is the ability to do work

By definition.....

Energy...
Physics. force times the distance through which it acts;

Force..
Physics.
a.
an influence on a body or system, producing or tending to produce a change in movement or in shape or other effects.
b.
the intensity of such an influence. Symbol: F, f

Broken down..
Energy is an influence of the change of distance.

Hence my statement "Energy is movement and distance". Stating that any movement over any distance is an example of energy at work.

Time is a dimension given to name how much work was done for the example.

How much movement, see above as by the definition of work, was done in intervals. That is the work is measured precisely and that measurement is in rate. Defining our perception of change that we describe as the dimension of time.

and the rest is just rubbish...

[G_burnett]

(n) energy,(physics) a thermodynamic quantity equivalent to the capacity of a physical system to do work; the units of energy are joules or ergs

http://wordnet.princeton.edu/

[greenbug]

lol ok so I'll use their dictionary to define it..

work ((physics) a manifestation of energy; the transfer of energy from one physical system to another expressed as the product of a force and the distance through which it moves a body in the direction of that force) "work equals force times distance"

and

force ((physics) the influence that produces a change in a physical quantity) "force equals mass times acceleration"

wow amazing they placed it in quotes even?! So the work equals mass times acceleration times distance. I guess I could brake down acceleration and mass, which have to deal with more distance and more resistance of influence. Yet I think it would still lead to my original comment that energy is just a measurement of an influence on distance, or movement."movement and distance"

[greenbug]

oh and
"we control it, we have power over all the beasts of the field remember?"
That did give me a chuckle.

But I did want to say that control is an illusion. We like to think that every system has an absolute but it has been proven that their is always uncertainty.

People use to say "it was an act of god" when power over all the beasts of the field failed. I guess they were in denial.. Either that or God really did intervene. But we notice that on a dally basis any more right?

[labelwench]

But I did want to say that control is an illusion. We like to think that every system has an absolute but it has been proven that there is always uncertainty.
Originally posted by greenbug

The only certainty can be experienced by the singular.

The moment we begin to examine anything, there is uncertainty.

As soon as we begin to communicate the findings of our examination, even unto ourself, the uncertainties multiply, exponentially.

[G_burnett]

lol ok so I'll use their dictionary to define it..

work ((physics) a manifestation of energy; the transfer of energy from one physical system to another expressed as the product of a force and the distance through which it moves a body in the direction of that force) "work equals force times distance"

and

force ((physics) the influence that produces a change in a physical quantity) "force equals mass times acceleration"

wow amazing they placed it in quotes even?! So the work equals mass times acceleration times distance. I guess I could brake down acceleration and mass, which have to deal with more distance and more resistance of influence. Yet I think it would still lead to my original comment that energy is just a measurement of an influence on distance, or movement."movement and distance"

There is no individuality energy is working on .. it is a system ... there is little or no or just and.

the power over all the beasts in the field was by man understanding what they were .. naming them accordingly with value ... no more of an unknown fight or flight need but by observing and knowing what was seen we had a third option ... potential survival if we we were not stupid and further advance.
but then IMHO g.

[greenbug]

You will have to rephrase this for me.

There is no individuality energy is working on .. it is a system ... there is little or no or just