Time And Relativity

[dleviwing]

Graham;
I think you and sage have a very tenebrous relationship. I find my comprehension of your language rather dubious at best. I guess I don’t read Canadian as well as I thought.

[Max™]

Complex numbers are a way to describe a plane which extends beyond the real number line.

Schroedinger's Cat is not to be taken so literally, due to decoherence and such.

The underlying message from QM is that events, even those observed in one state, can be observed to be in a completely different state, or exhibit unrealistic correlations between events.

It also speaks to the fact that you cannot observe something, or measure it, without interacting and thus changing it.

[G_burnett]

Graham;
I think you and sage have a very tenebrous relationship. I find my comprehension of your language rather dubious at best. I guess I don’t read Canadian as well as I thought.

You are such a gentleman Dave.

I observed that a defined yet unexplained natural force existed in nature to a better define of being frozen energy.

As it had been frozen to what our relative time frame of view would be, and, frozen while being in a transient state of motion to a certain permanency of state, creation of the same natural observed exist was found possible, created by others and given to fallacy of state to the define as "just is".

A brief experiment over twenty years ago in a review more recent, confirmed that the frozen energy with ability to do work still was in exist.

As such a further experiment is in the making to define the nature of the frozen energy state potential ability to do work as it is restrictive in nature to such ability but by the said experiment hopefully define the ability or type of work it will do and not be unfrozen or lose it ability to continue to do work once we find what it can do.

Predictions are that it will turn an axle, create a helix of fusion capable containment, and possibly open a way to the stars after the books are changed a bit.

further describe of the freeze though many may think it a strange way to look at things ... is for now more a road i am on few other have been driving.

... and it is not patented yet.

Do not there fore underestimate your language skills as it is just a Canadian thought ... method

kind regards g.

afterthought "Over their heads the towering and tenebrous boughs of the cypress met in a dusky arch."-- Longfellow. I liked this use of the word most Canadians are a tall bunch ..

[G_burnett]

Complex numbers are a way to describe a plane which extends beyond the real number line.

........

....this Max makes a whole lot of sense to me right now.

Thank you g.

[Max™]

My girlfriend helped me with that.

I was mentioning them to her, and when I said 'real number + imaginary', she goes "ok wait."

Then she draws a line in the air to her left and right and says "positive and negative real".

Then up and down "imaginary".

Then she puts a point above the positive real line, to the side of the imaginary line "complex", and I was like 'oh, duh, that makes sense now.'

[G_burnett]

My girlfriend helped me with that.

I was mentioning them to her, and when I said 'real number + imaginary', she goes "ok wait."

Then she draws a line in the air to her left and right and says "positive and negative real".

Then up and down "imaginary".

Then she puts a point above the positive real line, to the side of the imaginary line "complex", and I was like 'oh, duh, that makes sense now.'

"lmfao"

Max postulates
"It also speaks to the fact that you cannot observe something, or measure it, without interacting and thus changing it. "It was already... ahh ....changed .. (Your post maybe needs to be changed to define in the very small value the words "something, it, and it.")

kind ~regards graham, sage (and wolf who has taken up breakdancing ... video forth coming lol )

[Max™]

I don't define those terms specifically because the effect I am speaking of is far too broad.

[G_burnett]

one of my difficulties is to try and define with specific terms that Dave will ever correct me on with the simple ... i am not making myself understood lol

I have therefor removed all boundaries (they do not really exist much and always change anyways to me) and plan to describe in the set plane of complex thought in the ignore of real number sets that might show up.

~kind regards g.

[dleviwing]

Quantifying the universe is a very difficult task Graham, even with Sage’s help and an entire lifetime it may be futile. As yet we have not progressed beyond Planck’s quantum units. I would be willing to consider any other integer set you are willing to propose though.

[G_burnett]

hmmm, considering the "hole" of a torus model, the combined compressed flux in spin with the force of the galaxy measured behind the feed ... the mass coming to event of the torus containment, the containment boundaries = the set of all Galactic matter/energy measured, + of course the measure of the known universe ..., finite and whole.... how will we find out the measure of the jet emit?

you are right, it will take a while to quantify. Putting the line there, any where, has it limitations to the full pictorial and on the other hand ... still a guess.

My proposition other though is the frozen in time charge forward in an extend with a polarized substance in common the permanent magnet being a good example of time dilation where the frozen in time polar state will have a degree of permanency notable. the thought experiment would be what if the state was a state of a clock or a human for the example if we could freeze all the energy in transient form with polar state ... kind of hard as the electrocution of the man would take place in the process of alignment and condense, but would not his time stop or the clock stop? ...

The Pope is safe yet!

~kind regards g.