Matter is everything in a void:

[dleviwing]

Q7;
Thank you for demonstrating the REAL process of logical thinking for Michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Thanks Dave,for the tip,I shall keep a close eye on his posts,who knows maybe I will discover logic,then I will be in your camp then!!

kind regards michael.

[Mohan.C]

energy is matter in free flow,matter is energy caught in an EDDY.


kind regards michael.

I agree with it Michael even logically it is true

Logic is limited. Math and science limit human emotions which is all we have true as ours. Now, don't tell me logically you don't have emotions.

[mkirkpatrick]

I am grateful for your reply Mohan, in particular when you say even logically it is true! There is free flow, as a mighty river,then off to one side there are many eddies, is the water somewhat stilled by the eddies presence, any different than the water in rapid flow, just inches away???? I think not!!!

kind regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Michael;
What is the cause of this flow? Why do you think particles can be compared to eddies in water? Can you make your comment any less ambiguous? Relate what you are talking about to current concepts. If you are going to post in this thread, it would be nice if you had something to contribute and not just use it to accumulate post counts.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

What is the original cause of the flow, Dave...? John Wheeler came close___the self-circuitry of the universe...

regards

Michael;
What is the cause of this flow? Why do you think particles can be compared to eddies in water? Can you make your comment any less ambiguous? Relate what you are talking about to current concepts. If you are going to post in this thread, it would be nice if you had something to contribute and not just use it to accumulate post counts.

[mkirkpatrick]

Michael;
What is the cause of this flow? Why do you think particles can be compared to eddies in water? Can you make your comment any less ambiguous? Relate what you are talking about to current concepts. If you are going to post in this thread, it would be nice if you had something to contribute and not just use it to accumulate post counts.

Well Dave,point one,what is the cause of this flow,the answer to that is one word Dave,Intention.point two,
why do I think particles can be compared to eddies in water?Are not particles
in flow form?Or do you think they are static dave?Have you ever studied water in motion,in particular,rivers,Dave?Well I have,and when you do that you will also notice the tiny irregularities in the current that precede the
formation of an eddy,this in effect and in fact is no different than the motioning of particles,most follow a straight forward path,in the full flow of the "clean" current,but as with any flow,there will occur an irregularity at times,and when this happens an eddy will form.I do hope that this little piece
of work is less anbiguous!And lastly Dave,I rather dislike the snipey remark that you make about,just posting to accumulate post counts,you are now taking my inventory,Dave,and you are my friend,NOT qualified to do that.
Well enough said,I think I have answered all that you asked.
kind regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Michael;
I think you should do a broader study of the behavior of liquids. Include liquid hydrogen and also deuterium. Don’t limit it to the flow of what we consider normal liquids, but also study the behavior of high temperature liquids (iron etc). You have your analogy in reverse; the flow does not cause the eddies, the autonomous particles (eddies) cause the flow and the wave dynamics of fundamental matter causes the development of the particles.
Make your posts meaningful and they will not appear as being post counters. Posts like “I agree with your comments; keep it up” is a post counter. You know it and so do the rest of us. If you truly were not aware of this; you are now.

[mkirkpatrick]

Well Dave,I disagree with most of your reply to me,does this count,as a post
counter as well dave?You thoughtfully go on to suggest that maybe I should
broaden my study of liquids,to prehaps include hydrogen,and deuterium,well
sorry about that Dave,as I have absolutely no intention whatsoever of
taking your most thoughtful advice!I would sooner watch the urine dribble
down the leg of a bull elephant in full musk,than take on your kindly suggestion.By the way if you pay close attention to the rivulets of urine running down the leg of the wonderous beast in question,you will see on close inspection,tiny irregularities occuring within the urinal stream,this
effect or tiny eddy as it most certainly is,is caused by the emergence of the
Bot fly larva,as it seeks to escape its unwitting host.If you have any other
natural history questions you would like answering,just give me a call.

kind regards michael.

[David Maes]

Reprinted by permission from Macmillan Publishers Ltd: [NATURE]
(Stenner, M.D., Gauthier, D.J. & Neifeld, M.A. Nature 425, 695-698 (2003))
copyright (2003)
'The speed of information in a fast-light optical medium' www.nature.com

For clearness' sake; i didn't write this, i first read it at Nature and afterwards tapped it in here.


This i posted after reading an article on Nature called 'Faster than a speeding photon' by Jon Marrangos.

Because it's not literally, i better post the literally and then note everything.

'In this experiment, each of the different frequency components making up the pulse experiences a slightly different dispersion in the medium. The relative phases between them are therefore changed and the pulse shape is shifted to bring the pulse wave packet (or group velocity) forward in time. So the anomalous dispersion leads to interference between different frequency components of the pulse that produce the superluminal effect. Although amazing, this type of superluminal pulse propagation does not violate the principle of causality.'

Reprinted by permission from Macmillan Publishers Ltd: [NATURE]
(Jon Marangos, Nature 406, 243-244 (20 Juli 2000))
Copyright 2000
'News and Views', 'Faster than a speeding photon' www.nature.com

For clearness' sake; i didn't know anything at all about this; i only did once i read the article.

'Wang at al. argue that their superluminal pulses are the result of the wave nature of light itself (fortunately, making it impossible for an object with mass to travel faster than c) and that no actual information, or signal, is transmitted faster than c.'

Reprinted by permission from Macmillan Publishers Ltd: [NATURE]
(Jon Marangos, Nature 406, 243-244 (20 Juli 2000))
Copyright (2000)
'News and Views', 'Faster than a speeding photon' www.nature.com

(Wang, L. J. , Kuzmich, A. & Dogariu, A. Nature 406, 277-279 (2000))
Copyright (2000)
'Gain assisted superluminal light propagation'. www.nature.com

For clearness' sake, i only knew about this when i read the articles.

'We measure a negative group-velocity index.'

Reprinted by permission from Macmillan Publishers Ltd: [NATURE]
(Wang, L. J. , Kuzmich A. & Dogariu, A. Nature 406, 277-279 (20 Juli 2000))
Copyright (2000)
'Gain assisted superluminal light propagation' www.nature.com


For clearness' sake, i only knew about this when i read the article.

Using these techniques light can even be 'frozen'.

This does not occur in vacuum.

'Frozen light is a reality.'

Reprinted by permission from Macmillan Publishers Ltd: [NATURE]
(Marlan O. Scully, Nature 426, 610-611 (11 december 2003))
Copyright (2003)
'Quantum optics: Light at a standstill' www.nature.com

(Bajcsy, M., Zibrov, A. S. & Lukin, M. D. Nature 426, 638-641 (11 december 2003)
Copyright (2003)
'Stationary pulses of light in an atomic medium' www.nature.com

For clearness' sake, i only knew about it when i read the article.

Sorry it's so late i make it clear; but i had to figger out where i read it again.
Of course Toequest already told me about standstill of light; but i also read it on Nature.

Just had to make clear i didn't write this.

i think it's much more sensible if you also quote (and ask permission first) something before sending it.

As i saw Tesla doing that immediately, i noticed she was more sensible than i; next to the contents of the posts, so i just
couldn't let something happen with her/him.

i know, as a member (with pleasure) i have an advantage (hope you don't mind me saying that).
But sense attracts me.