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i believe you're right when you say, there can't be mass without energy and there can't be energy without mass.
I am wondering about the creation of mass in the absence of energy in creation. What if mass came into existence without any energy yet in existence, the cold fusion would have been the only available avenue to take from nothing to mass and elements and something. Only a small vacuum added to the power of gravity would be all that would be available and necessary to squeeze the particles into hydrogen and beyond, and also make available the neutrons for heat and thermodynamic beginnings that had nowhere to go but from cold to warmer. Since energy had not been there yet, cold to warmer would be the only direction possible and could have been facilitated by only vacuum and gravity added together. Cold fusion of creation could have created the elements in the absence, preexistence of energy, and have seeded the universe with mass that could be turned into energy by the mass energy equivalence equation E=mc^2.

Mass could have been carried by hydrogen that was heavied, laden with neutrons that were not part of any reaction of acids and bases, because the proton and electron were all that were important to the formation of life on Earth. The proposal that neutrons were capable of being carried in unlimited numbers into the DNA molecule and released is a fascinating and appealing thought. The deuteron and the tritium are but the first two examples of what could have been possible and around in the quark soup of the early universe. Extrapolating from one neutron, two neutrons, and to unlimited neutrons is logical and should be looked into. Did the universe use cold fusion of creation in this way? Did the gravity and vacuum add together and accomplish incredible things without any help from God, or man? The zero gravity we now see in most of space came from somewhere. It must have been higher at one time. It is infinite in the black holes. The collection of gravity into concentrated places makes sense if you consider that the gravity and the vacuum worked and transferrred mass into elements, and then collected gravity around the masses and deleted it from areas where there were no particles formed.

The vacuum and the gravity could have been the signature reaction of the universe that ultimately formed elements, RNA and DNA and cells to exist in, beginning with one celled creatures and evolving into higher cells of finally man and all that he needs. Man, plants, animals, minerals, metals, acids and bases, oxygen and carbon dioxide, hemoglobin, RBC's, and nerves to make sense of it all. Regeneration of nerve tissue is the toughest thing for DNA, but not for RNA. The body can make again what it made once into a person.
And quickly at that. Once begun, it only takes a moment for the code to encode itself and make out of ribosomes the proteins ordered.

Conception can be recaptured later in life. Errors can be avoided once you know what you are troubled with in life. Once we know the reason for a disease the second time you are concieved you can correct those errors or avoid them or bypass them. Since you are making what is already there, you, the only change you will notice is the correction of the disease, and no change on the rest. You will not reject your own self, so rejection is not a problem. However, the recognition of self means the original error would be a problem, since convincing the immune system that you are still you and that the error and the correction are necessary is a good stem cell function to look into.

Stem cells can become any cell. Corrected cells should be explored as treatment for anything at all. RNA, so looked past in what we are, is the true place of our intelligence. It supervises all the cells and unified at that.
DNA houses all the errors and the code for the human being. It is an acid that donates to four bases(A,T,G,C) that pair up continually to make up the genetic code. Deoxyribonucleic acid(and acids always donate), and bases which accept, and are the DNA, are simple and unified and complete. Why aren't we?

Where have we gone wrong? What is missing? It is possible for the egg to implant in the womb or for the egg to be recycled and used to recreate the woman it came from. Without sperm, the egg and it's contents are half the genetic makeup of the mother. This could be useful.

Half the genetic makeup, as in a single strand of DNA that is RNA, which can operate the cell and organs and body.

We do more with less, over and over and over again. Why is that? Given less than the whole and we have room to operate, lots more options available to us, more spaces to fill in with whatever seems needed. When faced with the whole, we seem strapped into repeating the mistakes over and over, relentlessly, endlessly, heartlessly.

The RNA is the same as a virus. It is necessary for life itself. It brings death to some, and life to most. How does it choose which to bring? With or without you, comes to mind.

I don't want to be infected with AIDS, but I do marvel at the energy use of the virus and its ability to mutate. I also know that if you bud the virus, it will not infect the cell. So small an act that one can hardly calculate the little energy required to do such a thing, and the results are incalcuable.

Unbelievable, yet all true. Unlimited returns from the smallest energy probably in existence today. And some people say that cold fusion does not exist.
Cold fusion of creation exists. Evolution is the energy thief. Millions of years and natural selection to slowly make the human being when the angel would have been preferred. Choose creation over evolution for yourself. Reject the ones who say you evolved from primates. You are the stuff of stars.
Elements cooked in the stars, and given the evenness of the universe, it is so natural that what is cooked in the stars also formed everywhere else, including in you. There is a side that is continuous with stars that are so far away you can never reach them, but you behave as if those stars are two inches away from you. Incredible!

The sun is 93 million miles from here, or just 8 minutes when He comes to us. What about the other trillion stars in just one of the other million galaxies?
You are in contact with all of them and they are in contact with you. You can never visit them all even with a ship and NASA and all the money in the world, but when their light comes to you, it is fast, short, and like feedback and you live with that in your life. You respond to that and always have.

A million galaxies, a trillion stars per galaxy, and you can see when one goes supernovae as one did in 1987. It lit up the galaxy for a month and faded away. Many supernovae when considered all together have told you that the universe is accelerating it's expansion. The distance betwwen galaxies is getting bigger. But the stars still reach you just as they always have. You are born under a sign, and you have always been connected to your date of birth with the stars.

But your span of attention is small and yet you have 15 billion years of history to play around in. Who knows how much future you have to play in?
Everyone was there when the universe was created, even if you were in another form. You remember something because you partially agree with science when they mention it. You hear and accept most of what is said.
What is scary to you is when you suspect something or remember another version, and you would like to speak up but you are scared. A unified world is difficult to transform because the forces of change are dangerous.

Anyone who wants to improve the energy policy of the world must face the oil people first and they are powerful and one person cannot do it alone.
Often new inventions are bought and scrapped by big business. Anyone who changes the fuel used must face the change of cars, engines, and yet, we are all in this together. Sooner or later, the fuel used will be depleted, and any other alternative will be in abundance compared to the exhausted one we just used.

Stars use up their fuel all the time. When they do, they collapse, and end. The light will be there for a month and then fade. This eureka type of star stuff is real. But after the month is gone, the event is quickly dismissed as anomolous. Until the next one, and we do this all over again.

CCD's and telescopes record when detected the supernovae yet to be. The amatuer astronomer can be just as able as NASA to participate in searching the stars. Charge coupled devices, solar calculators, fusion reactors, technology, anything at all can be found in advanced civilizations. The virus that makes all this possible can also be found dormant in your body.

Sometimes it is awakened. Sometimes it is harmful. Sometimes it is detectable in viral loads and sometimes not. Sometimes it is destroyed by the immune system of strong people. Spontaneous healing of hepatitis comes to mind.

What never changes is our forgetting that RNA, and anti-RNA, which may be an antiviral drug, will affect all of you. Leaving a few matter particles for all the pairs of matter and antimatter that came together and went through annihilation.

I just don't want to accidently erase humans from the Earth if I participate in the destruction of a disease agent. I was just as shocked at my contradiction conclusion when I realized the virus I was hating was the same thing as what my cells use to function everyday. A single strand can bring it all into focus, or make you lose it all, and who it the wise man to tell you that knowing all this is just part of the plan.

So where am I going with this post, clearly I have formed many tangents.
I just suspect that cold fusion of creation is real and the truth. Not a big bang, but the gentle addition of the vacuum to the gravity, and the astronomical amount of stuff that followed. Is it any wonder that our minds are still taking it all in, from everywhere?

I hope that someone will see my thoughts and say that they agree and have humbly contradicted themselves and learned so much it boggles the mind.
If we overcome RNA and wipe disease off the Earth, we may also erase ourselves as well. We are here because the sun should not be alone. The stars, all of them, are sending their light always. Dark matter is unresponsive to light, but not to gravity. The galaxies are held in gravitational
arrangements and velocities that reveal the whole mass that will ever be possible in the universe. The stars are still cooking up elements now to be in the future. That mass is 20 times all the known mass of the entire universe as is is today. We are a mere 5%. Can you imagine what will be true when the 100% is finalized? I can't.

Please remember that if two galaxies in a million collide, it is cause for blame and accusations. But for two galaxies to collide out of a million is pretty good. Nothing is perfect, but that is close and as near to perfect as I can think of. But our creator is a damn perfectionist and is harder on himself than is reasonable. To the trillion stars that are formed in a galaxy, I remain listening to your light, waiting for you, and wishing I was still a part of you the way I was long ago when the universe was scrunched closer.

When you plan your investments, consider that we are 5% of the way there.
15 Billion years of history to discover. Looking at 2000 years that the church recognizes is silly.

The periodic table is based on the behavior of elements. Anyone can add to it. When you breathe in and out, you carry oxygen and carbon dioxide in a beautiful crown of hemoglobin. Iron in your blood so precious. In the stars, the iron is the step at which the elements stop forming without any energy added. With gravity and the vacuum, the energy is not necessary anymore.
Elements beyond iron exist. Using no input of energy. It is remarkable. You can do alot without anything at all. You can do more with less as you increase the atomic number. That is an underlying theory of everything, and I hope you might consider it as a candidate for the theory.

You can do more with less as you increase the atomic number. I look forward to your growth and input into this matter as it takes all of us to agree on the outcome. What is accepted requires your decision ultimately.
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Hi Michelle, thanks for the post. i answer it tomorrow if i can (is getting too late again...)

But am just wondering...

Could this site be used for some kind of a psychological or sociological experiment to measure public reactions??
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Hi Michelle, thanks for the post. i answer it tomorrow if i can (is getting too late again...)

But am just wondering...

Could this site be used for some kind of a psychological or sociological experiment to measure public reactions??
That is entirely possible. How does anyone know until they try to share with others what is on their mind? It is either rejected or accepted, kept or forgotten, and both are acceptable reactions. Often I just wonder if it is possible to find someone who has wondered the same things you have, and who are they, how are they. Can they improve upon something in your thinking?
We could ask pagan about the psychology aspect. That is his field of expertise. Hey pagan3142, what do you think?
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Thanks dave. I have a big complication now. I agree that if there is matter there must be space-time (actually, also energy-force). But can there be any of these four without matter? Doesn't 'existence' requier a physical body?
I believe that when matter exists there must be space-time. space because of its volume and time exist because its change during a period of time (even if there is no change) but i believe that other especially energy can exist with out matter (in void). From my perspective, matter is just a form of energy. Its energy which created matter. Nuclear fission is a way to show that when you break down atoms in to a simpler one you get huge amount of energies. Even though i can not proof that matter can be completely in to energy but its the way which make sence to me!
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There are those who choose to say that the fundamental entity of the universe is energy. As such they say that energy coverts to matter or creates matter. This type of thinking leads to the illusion that there can be an entity of the universe that does not have physical being. I prefer to choose the opposite and state that “matter is the fundamental physical substance of the universe and it is the motion property of this substance that produces energy and the bonding property of this substance that creates particulate forms.” “Conservation of matter” supports both conservation of energy and the conservation of mass by conserving motion.(absolute motion)
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I hope that someone will see my thoughts and say that they agree and have humbly contradicted themselves and learned so much it boggles the mind.
Great post, never read something going so deeply, so well-considered to the bottom; with an unlimited urge to understand the world around us, leading to a manifestation of rational and emotional intelligence.

Keep on doing this.

Hope everyone reads your post; it boggles the mind intensely.
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am thinking about something (just philosophizing; consider this of the record)

Maybe there could be some hidden equivalence underneath E = mc²?

but am a little afraid of someone discovering something in the future in that nature...

imagen someone would find such a thing...

would humanity be capable and responsible enough to handdle it properly??

we can do a lot of damage now with atomic bombs...

what if the next step would be we have the ability to destroy sunsystems (or maybe just parts of a galaxy?) who knows?

would we have enough responsibility to 'play god'?
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Excellent post Michell, well appreciated. Thanks...

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The news about faster than light speed by light is posted in this website itself..
The time to detect information propagating through the fast-light medium is slightly longer than the time required to detect the same information travelling through a vacuum, even though the group velocity in the medium exceeds c; this is still consistent with relativistic causality.

i think the reason why the group velocity (which is the result of many frequencies) exceeds c is because of the dispersive characteristics of the fast-light medium (which has negative refraction index).

i think it has something to do with the nature of light waves. (it doesn't really tell us something about information).

So information does not go faster than light; you only get a faster than light effect because of the dispersive characteristics of the many frequencies; all together resulting to a faster than light effect.

Anyhow this is not in contradiction with relativistic causality.

Also the light in the experiment is not travelling through vacuum but through an optical medium.

About entangled photons...

Entangled states can be used to reconstruct copies at a distance, but cannot be used to send information faster than light.

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Hi Michelle, thanks for the post. i answer it tomorrow if i can (is getting too late again...)

But am just wondering...

Could this site be used for some kind of a psychological or sociological experiment to measure public reactions??
This can be, but the presented news articles on this site are correct of course.
(sorry again Robert!

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Using these techniques light can even be 'frozen'.

This does not occur in vacuum.
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