[TinyTree]

There is an Irish corporation, called "Steorn", who believe they have discovered a way to create energy. Here is a picture of one of the researchers with his prototype:

http://www.steorn.net/images/sean4_small.jpg

While researching highly efficient mini engines for a client, they found a configuration which appeared to be giving off more energy than they put into it. At first they did not believe it, but they have confirmed it with numerous tests and have several outside researchers come in to confirm the results, although none of these outside researchers have gone public with the affirmation (presumably in fear of ridicule).

So now the company placed and ad in the Economist asking for others to come forwards and either support their claim, or prove it to be a hoax.

Here is some commentary on the situation:

http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archiv...nd_free_1.html

What do you think of this whole thing?


It appears to me that if it is a hoax, it is a hoax by an individual (one of the crew has done something to the apparatus which the others do not know about). However, I truly think they do believe they have found free energy.

The device consists of a number of magnets placed in a specific orientation in a form of an electric motor. Thus, it seems possible that they may be sucking energy out of the earths magnetic field, for example. That is, perhaps the earth is losing its magnetism, or spin energy, or some other planetary source which is being drained microscopically with this device. Of course, if our entire civilization went to such a method the results might not be so happy - if the earth changed its rotational speed for example.

What do you think?

[mkirkpatrick]

Tinytree,I too saw this yesterday on a website,probally the same one as you,I
briefy glanced at it,no more,I agree with you,that it warrents further investigation,who
knows this may well be the answer to all our prayers!
regards michael

[TinyTree]

I wonder what the world would be like with unlimited energy. Sadly, I think it might be very much like today, almost exactly the same actually. The only thing that would differ is that global warming might be slowed slightly, and the large oil companies would no longer show such a huge profit. That is, it would change the nature of the economy subtly.

Being able to drive without gas would reduce the cost of transporation of goods, and hence bring down all good prices somewhat (the mechanical devices to transport the goods would still cost money)

Currently, energy represents 7% of GDP, so eliminating this 7% cost would raise overall GDP by around 7%. Thus, our standard of living would rise by 7% over time, which would give a boost to the stock market, but not fundamentally change the way we live.

The difference might be is that some energy intensive operations which are too expensive to undertake now might become feasible- such as cheaper transport into space, making space travel more realistic. It would still cost billions to launch a fleet of vehicles probably though, but it would lower the bar considerably for space launches.

Also, certain elements may become more available which are currently energy intensive to extract, and rarer materials may then become cheaper thus changing the available materials for building societies infrastructure.

Also, it would eliminate the need for batteries and energy storage, making many more devices portable which are not currently portable. Any energy using device could use the technology to become portable.

The electical infrastructure and gas infrastrucue would eventually be replaced, and it would reduce your own personal energy bills substantially. If you figure this as part of your budget, it would give you an idea of what would be saved. I believe for my own household it is probably around 9% of expenses, if you include gasoline.

But keep in mind, much of todays agricultural technique utilizing the fossil fuel as fertilizer, so the fuels would probably still be pumped out to be used in fertilizer, and fossil fuels are used in plastics, so fossil fuels would still be in high demand for the raw material for these industrialized goods.

It might loosen the grip of large oil interests on influencing governmental decisions, which would be helpful, but undoutbably a new large monetary interest would take up the slack.

[protheory]

Originally Posted by TinyTree There is an Irish corporation, called "Steorn", who believe they have discovered a way to create energy. Here is a picture of one of the researchers with his prototype: http://www.steorn.net/images/sean4_small.jpg While researching highly efficient mini engines for a client, they found a configuration which appeared to be giving off more energy than they put into it. At first they did not believe it, but they have confirmed it with numerous tests and have several outside researchers come in to confirm the results, although none of these outside researchers have gone public with the affirmation (presumably in fear of ridicule). So now the company placed and ad in the Economist asking for others to come forwards and either support their claim, or prove it to be a hoax. Here is some commentary on the situation: http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archiv...nd_free_1.html What do you think of this whole thing? It appears to me that if it is a hoax, it is a hoax by an individual (one of the crew has done something to the apparatus which the others do not know about). However, I truly think they do believe they have found free energy. The device consists of a number of magnets placed in a specific orientation in a form of an electric motor. Thus, it seems possible that they may be sucking energy out of the earths magnetic field, for example. That is, perhaps the earth is losing its magnetism, or spin energy, or some other planetary source which is being drained microscopically with this device. Of course, if our entire civilization went to such a method the results might not be so happy - if the earth changed its rotational speed for example. What do you think?

This looks fascinating, I've studied quite a few of Tesla's original ideas about electricity and free energy but I've never seen this before.

I'd love to see it proven as a working prototype, that would be truly wonderful to see...and use myself.

I don't really understand all the technicalities of energy measurement in this context but the idea that this device is somehow receiving energy from the earth's magnetic field is a fascinating one indeed.

I hope that eventually we will all be able to have our own portable power source using green energy, I've seen enormous generators at various festivals I've been to but they all still run on non-renewable fossil fuels unfortunately.

Since my early childhood I have been interested in lay lines, dowsing using rods, and many other free energy/magnetic field theories.

I can remember watching the film "Back To The Future 2" and working out how if I had a hover board then all I needed to do was reverse the magnetic poles of the underside of my board, then have the opposite polarity under the ground at the right power ratio, and I could float like a Japanese bullet train.

I'm still working on the plans...