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Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force') -
09-30-2007, 04:25 PM
Dear MJA: In response to your explosively stuttering, fissile question (and your posted condolences and bicycle riding sympathies for your - child's eye illuminated - demise, as it is projected on Truly Yours, via this international website):this is the equally ageless evolutionary union - fusion - of Newton, Maxwell and Einstein.(Apple Pi r squared.)
Einstein's reinstated unified field - cosmological constant/steady state - without mathematics(fait accompli).
(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.
"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force')
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force') -
10-01-2007, 06:38 PM
Now, put both handednesses and directions of wave dynamics, in that bottom diagram, and you may have something...
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G. "The tick-tick-tick of the cesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force')
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force') -
10-01-2007, 08:23 PM
Please let me know how, where, when and why those 'requirements' aren't accomodated, Lloyd.
Best regards,
- RP
(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.
"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force')
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force') -
10-02-2007, 03:45 PM
Rascal, you haven't even mentioned handednesses, in all your work... Left handed matter/energy/motion is from a past distance position, traveling at c, and spinning/revolving/orbiting, in a left-handed spiral. Right handed matter/energy/motion is from a past distance position, traveling at c, and spinning/revolving/orbiting, in a right-handed spiral. If you take the time to look at such a model, you'll quickly see that any two right-handed, or any two left-handed, such motions of matter/waves, easily sets up a perfect hydrodynamic vortex, and the vector and polar co-ordinates, through group velocities, would create great compression and heat mechanics. We are offering such a model to further explain, what may have happened, before any physically visible genesis object appeared, i.e., black hole/big-bang/small-bangs/whatever. First star had to form from the primordial soup, somehow___This is my area of theorizing. If you think all we see came from a primordial point, as does "standard model" goofy physics, then we can't communicate, as that's just far too foolish. Your more recent posts, lead me to think you are more open minded, than are "standard model" goofy physicists...
It's just another twist, or twists, on the primordial matter/energy field. Einstein was right; "It's all field." "It's all thermodynamics..."
Regards,
Lloyd
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G. "The tick-tick-tick of the cesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force')
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force') -
10-02-2007, 05:24 PM
Lloyd's quote and RP's response:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie
Rascal, you haven't even mentioned handednesses, in all your work... Left handed matter/energy/motion is from a past distance position, traveling at c, and spinning/revolving/orbiting, in a left-handed spiral. Right handed matter/energy/motion is from a past distance position, traveling at c, and spinning/revolving/orbiting, in a right-handed spiral. If you take the time to look at such a model, you'll quickly see that any two right-handed, or any two left-handed, such motions of matter/waves, easily sets up a perfect hydrodynamic vortex, and the vector and polar co-ordinates, through group velocities, would create great compression and heat mechanics. We are offering such a model to further explain, what may have happened, before any physically visible genesis object appeared, i.e., black hole/big-bang/small-bangs/whatever. First star had to form from the primordial soup, somehow___This is my area of theorizing. If you think all we see came from a primordial point, as does "standard model" goofy physics, then we can't communicate, as that's just far too foolish. Your more recent posts, lead me to think you are more open minded, than are "standard model" goofy physicists...
It's just another twist, or twists, on the primordial matter/energy field. Einstein was right; "It's all field." "It's all thermodynamics..."
Regards,
Lloyd
Speaking of naturally occurring right and left handedness, have you contemplated any naturally occurring examples for the 'twists' in your field studies, Lloyd?
I often think about left and right handed spirals - they're in my work - a lot...
Surely your familiar with sunflower and cactus fields, for example?
Or does the second illustration (below) not accomodate your spiraling - right and left handed - universal issue?
Logarithmic Spirals
You see logarithmic spirals every day. They are the natural growth curves of plants and seashells, the celebrated golden curve of ancient Greek mathematics and architecture, the optimal curve for highway turns. Peer into a flower or look down at a cactus and you will see a pattern of logarithmic spirals criss-crossing each other like so: This elegant spiral pattern is called phyllotaxis and it has a mathematics that is equally lovely. One reason why the logarithmic spiral appears in nature is that it is the result of very simple growth programs such as
grow 1 unit, bend 1 unit
grow 2 units, bend 1 unit
grow 3 units, bend 1 unit
and so on...
- Illustrations by Matthew Brand, MIT Media Lab brand@media.mit.edu
______________________
Best regards, - RP
(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.
"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force')
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force') -
10-02-2007, 05:48 PM
A little deeper Rascal. That isn't what I'm talking about, and I think you will know it if you read the post a bit deeper___Put your thinking cap on...
Handedness...!!!
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G. "The tick-tick-tick of the cesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force')
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force') -
10-04-2007, 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie
A little deeper Rascal. That isn't what I'm talking about, and I think you will know it if you read the post a bit deeper___Put your thinking cap on...
Handedness...!!!
Could you be more specific about what you mean by right and left handedness, Lloyd?
IMO, the dual - right and left spiral logarithms - I provided in the preceding post, fullfills your issue.
Please tell me why it doesn't.
(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.
"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force')
Re: Newton's Gravitational Alternative ('Gravity may be a repelling force') -
10-06-2007, 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RascalPuff
Could you be more specific about what you mean by right and left handedness, Lloyd?
IMO, the dual - right and left spiral logarithms - I provided in the preceding post, fullfills your issue.
Please tell me why it doesn't.
Hi Rascal. Simply because nobody is showing the directional flows of waves, approaching each other with opposite or even handedness. They're always pictured separately, like they never mesh. If you envision a circle, filled with a number of spiral sections, of left and right hand spins, approaching through time/distance from the out side of the circumferance of the circle, and meeting in the point center, like a bunch of twisters/tornados, you clearly see the dynamics put in play, I am trying to address. Such motions, interacting as such, would set up the perfect containment space, for matter/waves to hydrodynamically compress into real matter building processes. This is the quantum mechanical process, but first starts in the cosmology of the universe's fundamental substance fields, before first visible matter. It offers a possible evolution process of real matter production, from fundamental matter/waves. Instead of just explaining how the standard model works, this new model of wave interferances, clearly shows how the universe may have been put together, as verses the standard models' views of how it was taken apart, or works, from a point of unknowing. This model offers real accretion containment scenarios. If you follow the model of two right handed springs approaching at the speed of light, or of two left handed springs approaching, or one of each, they all set tremendous hydrodynamic containment pressures into play...
I just see nowhere in the physics literature, or this site, where such a dynamic model of quantum or cosmological processes, have been addressed. I'm laying it out as a possible model of creating first black holes or first stars, from fundamental matter/waves, existing before the big bang, or many small bangs. Have you seen it described this way, anywhere?
Lloyd
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G. "The tick-tick-tick of the cesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
You see logarithmic spirals every day. They are the natural growth curves of plants and seashells, the celebrated golden curve of ancient Greek mathematics and architecture, the optimal curve for highway turns. Peer into a flower or look down at a cactus and you will see a pattern of logarithmic spirals criss-crossing each other like so: 
This elegant spiral pattern is called phyllotaxis and it has a mathematics that is equally lovely. One reason why the logarithmic spiral appears in nature is that it is the result of very simple growth programs such as