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Re: Motion - 11-01-2007, 04:37 PM

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What is "RANDOM LINEAR MOTION"? If it's random then it is not linear. Linear motion is uniform motion and will produce Relative Mass. Random motion is what you get when you have EM radiation interference from many different directions.
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As I said David, how does random linear motion quantize itself...? That is the question, outside the box, of standard quantum physics... Random linear motion, must exist as a first state motion, of all random and uniform motion... Even your own colliding spheres requires just such motion. They had to first quantize, to exist...

This is where we are going to go every time, until you are willing to deal with the deeper meanings and truer actions of absolute fundamental motion... Your quantum answers do not yet apply...

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Re: Motion - 11-01-2007, 05:15 PM

"If we are ever able to make that time increment of measure small enough, maybe we can find that missing mass of the universe and call it space matter rather than zero point energy."

Space matter quantifiable as mass and energy through motion sounds good to me, Dave.
  
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11-01-2007, 05:47 PM

What do you mean?

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Re: Motion - 11-01-2007, 05:51 PM

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"If we are ever able to make that time increment of measure small enough, maybe we can find that missing mass of the universe and call it space matter rather than zero point energy."

Space matter quantifiable as mass and energy through motion sounds good to me, Dave.
I'll second that thought Nobody...

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is consciousness motion? Do arising concepts have speed?



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is consciousness motion? Do arising concepts have speed?
If it's not physical it can't move. I used to think there were no dumb questions; you have proven me wrong many times.


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Re: Motion - 11-03-2007, 05:53 PM

No Micheal. Consciousness cannot be motion. Because consciousness is very peculiar to human beings. Animals do not possess consciousness. Can we see that animal do not experience motion? Of course they do...


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No Micheal. Consciousness cannot be motion. Because consciousness is very peculiar to human beings. Animals do not possess consciousness. Can we see that animal do not experience motion? Of course they do...
"Animals do not possess consciousness".

Without referencing the context of the discussion this statement is derived from, animals do indeed possess consciousness, though it be a different quality than that of human beings (who are part animal).

Of course animals experience motion, and are very conscious of it...

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Re: Motion - 11-03-2007, 06:13 PM

Here consciousness would mean the 'I' factor. And motion is no way related to the I factor. For animals Motion comes very naturally and probably their life depends on it unlike human who has choice of motion and means of it..


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Without referencing the context of the discussion this statement is derived from, animals do indeed possess consciousness, though it be a different quality than that of human beings (who are part animal).

Of course animals experience motion, and are very conscious of it...

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Re: Motion - 11-03-2007, 06:14 PM

Quit true RP but for those who believe consciousness is the key, it would seem that they have locked themselves out.


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