[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick A whole whole is more than half a whole

Another way of looking at this is whether a whole spacetime (square of energy) containing half matter is half full or half empty or half full of energy? More than 90% of matter cannot be accounted.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao Another way of looking at this is whether a whole spacetime (square of energy) containing half matter is half full or half empty or half full of energy? More than 90% of matter cannot be accounted.

Is that because it is not really there,or that it is so well hidden that the best minds are unable to locate it?


regards michael.

[N0B0DY]

I think, as Dave pointed out in another thread, "emergence" is a relatively important factor in discerning wholistic interpretations. Which I also noticed in the link you provided, Antonio.

The whole is not only greater than two halves of a whole, but is potentially greater than itself. Yet, we know that nothing is greater than the one whole.

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick that it is so well hidden that the best minds are unable to locate

Heavy minds gave heavy theories for what they needed for the universe to stop expanding but observations indicate that the universe is not just expanding but also accelerating. It will take about 90% more than the observed mass to decelerate the universal expansion of spacetime.

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY The whole is not only greater than two halves of a whole, but is potentially greater than itself

Can we ever be able to get half of our questions answered? So far, the answers are less than 10% of the questions in any area of human endeavors and answered questions created more new questions along the way. The closer we get toward the knowledge horizon the farther it gets from our reach.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao Heavy minds gave heavy theories for what they needed for the universe to stop expanding but observations indicate that the universe is not just expanding but also accelerating. It will take about 90% more than the observed mass to decelerate the universal expansion of spacetime.

Prehaps we will keep on expanding until the cycle is complete?


regards michael.

[N0B0DY]

"Can we ever be able to get half of our questions answered? So far, the answers are less than 10% of the questions in any area of human endeavors and answered questions created more new questions along the way. The closer we get toward the knowledge horizon the farther it gets from our reach."

I agree, but to me it comes down to everything being based on fractal motions of what is observed, and like fractal geometry we attempt to count the infinite number of fractals in our search for ultimate knowledge instead of attacking it from the other end to prove that there are no fractals or motion.

For myself, I could never prove what an electron or any particle or wave fundamentally consists of, but I have easily proven that all particles and wave functions are based on arbitrary values of detectible measurements extracted from an absolutely static frame. The old aether experiments lead to one of the largest errors imo. That aether follows all motion and is therefore not detectible, instead of all motion being incrementally recreated according to discrete energies, based on empirical and theoretical science, over time. This way the aether doesn't move and neither do the particles/waves, and many problems are solved without renormalization.

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY our search for ultimate knowledge

A particle theory would be searching for the ultimate wave. A wave theory would be searching for the ultimate particle. Somehow both must meet half-way.

[N0B0DY]

Exactly, and we can think in terms of matter being both particles and waves, or neither. The latter implies that both are abstractive and that spacetime is quantitative.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY Exactly, and we can think in terms of matter being both particles and waves, or neither. The latter implies that both are abstractive and that spacetime is quantitative.

Absolutely Nobody,both particles and waves,and of course MIND!


regards michael.