[swoarg]

Yeah, Energy and force are different. And yeah I thought of gravitation energy because force is like the transfer of energy. An interaction due to the transfer of energy. Did you have a different point of view

i agree Mohan, thats just how i view gravity.i allso like Johns idea (allthough i dont profess to fully understand either)but they both seem to fit together well. i allso view gravity as being the major component in creating universes.

[dleviwing]

Gentlemen;
Energy is the measurement term of the physical phenomena of force.

[dipayankar]

There you go. Force is derived from energy.

Originally Posted by dleviwing Gentlemen; Energy is the measurement term of the physical phenomena of force.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by dleviwing Gentlemen; Energy is the measurement term of the physical phenomena of force.

dleviwing,
If you say energy is the measure of force does it mean force is fundamental to energy. Because for force there has to be two bodies a force of repulsion or attraction is valid only if it is being applied on an other body. So these two bodies have mass or energy so the force applied depends on the mass of the two bodies so energy would be fundamental not force??

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C Is there any equation for the gravitational energy in terms of 'mass' and 'distance'. And what is the inner and outer scalar and vector product. Is it different from the normal scalar and vector product.

Hi Mohan;

The formula for gravity in terms of mass and distance is:


The mechanisms of Newton's law of universal gravitation; a point mass m1 attracts another point mass m2 by a force F2 which is proportional to the product of the two masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance (r) between them. Regardless of masses or distance, the magnitudes of |F1| and |F2| will always be equal. G is the gravitational constant.
Isaac Newton's theory of universal

As far as energy, it's defined as the ability to do work. There are two types of energy; KINETIC ( the energy from movement ) and POTENTIAL ( the energy from position ( gravity) ).

I hope this helps.

Best to you,

Pat

P.S.

[dleviwing]

Force is the entity; energy is the measurement. The measurement determines the units of measure one wishes to present. There are many forms of energy other than the two you mentioned Pat; heat, electrical, bio, and so on. “G” can be expressed in several different units of measure from watts, ergs, joules, calories, and so on. As I’ve stated many times; “ always ask yourself, what’s the entity and what’s the dimension?” Don’t treat the dimension as the entity an the entity as the dimension. There are no entities in Einstein’s equation E=mc^2 and the same is true for many other equations. We use mass as a quantitative measure of matter and energy as a quantitative measure of force. Presuming that force and matter are two unique entities is the dilemma Newton was unable to solve and his error is still being taught without explanation today. Most professors and good physics text books make this quite clear.

[Profpat]

I stand corrected Dave, Many forms two categories:


Forms of Energy
Energy is found in different forms, such as light, heat, sound and motion. There are many forms of energy, but they can all be put into two categories: kinetic and potential. KINETIC ENERGY

Kinetic energy is motion––of waves, electrons, atoms, molecules, substances, and objects. POTENTIAL ENERGY

Potential energy is stored energy and the energy of position––gravitational energy. There are several forms of potential energy.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by dleviwing Force is the entity; energy is the measurement. The measurement determines the units of measure one wishes to present. There are many forms of energy other than the two you mentioned Pat; heat, electrical, bio, and so on. “G” can be expressed in several different units of measure from watts, ergs, joules, calories, and so on. As I’ve stated many times; “ always ask yourself, what’s the entity and what’s the dimension?” Don’t treat the dimension as the entity an the entity as the dimension. There are no entities in Einstein’s equation E=mc^2 and the same is true for many other equations. We use mass as a quantitative measure of matter and energy as a quantitative measure of force. Presuming that force and matter are two unique entities is the dilemma Newton was unable to solve and his error is still being taught without explanation today. Most professors and good physics text books make this quite clear.

I use mass as the quantitative measure of force and force as the measure of energy. Is it wrong?

[dleviwing]

Mohan;
I really don’t know how to make it clearer; mass and energy are dimensions (quantitative measurements). Matter and force are what’s being measured.

Pat;
I didn’t mean to nit-pick; to me all energy is just a measure of the motion state of matter.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by Profpat I stand corrected Dave, Many forms two categories: Forms of Energy Energy is found in different forms, such as light, heat, sound and motion. There are many forms of energy, but they can all be put into two categories: kinetic and potential. KINETIC ENERGY Kinetic energy is motion––of waves, electrons, atoms, molecules, substances, and objects. POTENTIAL ENERGY Potential energy is stored energy and the energy of position––gravitational energy. There are several forms of potential energy.

SO that is gravitational energy. The energy due to the position of a object in the influence of gravity.???