[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by dleviwing Mohan; I really don’t know how to make it clearer; mass and energy are dimensions (quantitative measurements). Matter and force are what’s being measured. Pat; I didn’t mean to nit-pick; to me all energy is just a measure of the motion state of matter.

Oh yeah..... I got it. Thanks.

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C SO that is gravitational energy. The energy due to the position of a object in the influence of gravity.???

Hi Mohan;

David is correct in a sense that the only energy is kinetic energy, the energy of movement. Potential energy is just that, potential. It's the apple sitting in the tree, it has potential energy because of it's position, and gravity. The real energy doesn't manifest until it starts falling, kinetic energy the energy of movement.

Best to you,

Pat

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Mohan; David is correct in a sense that the only energy is kinetic energy, the energy of movement. Potential energy is just that, potential. It's the apple sitting in the tree, it has potential energy because of it's position, and gravity. The real energy doesn't manifest until it starts falling, kinetic energy the energy of movement. Best to you, Pat

May be it does not manifest but it is there nevertheless. It should be there at least to uphold the energy conservation theorem.?!

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C May be it does not manifest but it is there nevertheless. It should be there at least to uphold the energy conservation theorem.?!

I agree it is there, it's just stored energy. And I'm sure you are right, it's part of the conservation laws of mass and energy.

Best,

Pat

[dipayankar]

So without any mass wont there be any force?

Originally Posted by Mohan.C I use mass as the quantitative measure of force and force as the measure of energy. Is it wrong?

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by dipayankar So without any mass wont there be any force?

No, there cant be.

[dipayankar]

Thats strange. I had an idea that even energy causes force..

Originally Posted by Mohan.C No, there cant be.

[Mohan.C]

Yes energy or mass can have force. Without energy or mass there cant be any force.

[swoarg]

i think it depends on how or what we are viewing gravity as, i like to view gravity as particles. it seems to make more sense to me.
the shifting theory of gravity for me is how gravity works.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by swoarg i think it depends on how or what we are viewing gravity as, i like to view gravity as particles. it seems to make more sense to me. the shifting theory of gravity for me is how gravity works.

Do you mean the gravitons swoarg or is there some other properties you associate with these particles.
I dont know the shifting theory of gravity, what is it?