[Mikal]

Originally Posted by Drifter

Are you suggesting the powers that want to control us have no intelligence?

How many of these can you point to/out in todays society???

Pagan and occult do not mean the same thing... nor does either refer necessarily to Gnosticism which was "Hidden", for obvious reasons...

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...nd_symbols.htm

That "American [Amer+Rica=Love of the Rich]Flag" it self contains 50 pentagrams and the colors symobolize the making and the breaking of a covenant...

One mans Terrorism is another mans Patriotism...look at George Washington and Adolf Hitler.

Check out "The Medal of Honor"...it's an inverted pagan Pentagram!...The Third Reichs "symbol" a swastical with a phoenix above it!... Do you see? Chrylers symbol is a Pentagram the "fire-bird"...what do you think of these things?...nothing...

Drift...yes we speak through symbols..every civilization has. Go examine the geometrical symbol of the Vatican...its interesting too. The layout of the white house has a geometrical significance. The placing of the Statue of Liberty also has significance. I examine these things for insight into the big picture as there is always hidden things. I examine these things not think about them...they are pertinent to understand many complexities which try to block the truth. Its like a good game of football...who's got the ball and is running????



Mikal

[Drifter]

I had to go back to my last post and make some addendums...you probably missed them...

But the point is...you cannot deny The Sun...THERE IT IS!...All Sentient Life DEPENDS UPON IT...

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Mikal

Drift...yes we speak through symbols..every civilization has. Go examine the geometrical symbol of the Vatican...its interesting too. The layout of the white house has a geometrical significance. The placing of the Statue of Liberty also has significance. I examine these things for insight into the big picture as there is always hidden things. I examine these things not think about them...they are pertinent to understand many complexities which try to block the truth. Its like a good game of football...who's got the ball and is running????



Mikal

Who indeed Mikal do they run mindlessly??? Apparently some do?...In the GAME CALLED LIFE...

Same old shit...just another day?

Or Melanchololy 'tip-toeing through the tulips' with Tiny Tim? [i dont know and can't say who's ass his head was in but i can and will say he was experiencing a similar "pipe-dream"]

pardon by out-spokeness..not meaning to be offensive..just calling 'the game' as I see it...

With much respect honorable lady...

Sincerely...
Drifter

[Mikal]

Originally Posted by Drifter

There is a Consciousness higher than that limited by selfism that's available...One must transcend one one to attain the other...you can't have both!...

Who is this "we" you collectively refer as an already existing phenomena?

The "phenomena" is the prevailing ignorance Mikal...and until we awaken TO it... we're are forever doomed to remain in "The Dark-Ages"....

See Plato's, "The Allegory of The Cave" dear...our "sentience" is the curse place on the spirit of the fallen angel and saying "amen"...translates=so be it..."Amon Ra"...seals the deal...When Spoken By The Heart...thus have I heard...
What do you think IHS on the backs of "Clegy's" robes stands for?... Isis, Horace, Seb or Seth!...

Drift...we are still questing to find a definitive theory of consciousness, it goes on as we debate...

The "we" I am referring to are all those attempting to rise to higher sentience and finding themselves conflicted by higher dimensional beings with pretty astute ability to play around and alter the perceptual experiences of those whom they attempt to control...

Sorry Drift but we are not in the Dark Age...there is quite significant intellectual participation in the higher sciences for this to be...

Isis was the ancient depiction of the power over life and death. She was the mother of Horus. Seth was Cain's brother and the Hebrew scriptors found it necessary to malign Cain and it was all about the ancient obsession with honoring patrilinear succession over matrilinear succession..


Mikal

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Mikal

Drift...we are still questing to find a definitive theory of consciousness, it goes on as we debate...

The "we" I am referring to are all those attempting to rise to higher sentience and finding themselves conflicted by higher dimensional beings with pretty astute ability to play around and alter the perceptual experiences of those whom they attempt to control...

Sorry Drift but we are not in the Dark Age...there is quite significant intellectual participation in the higher sciences for this to be...

Isis was the ancient depiction of the power over life and death. She was the mother of Horus. Seth was Cain's brother and the Hebrew scriptors found it necessary to malign Cain and it was all about the ancient obsession with honoring patrilinear succession over matrilinear succession..


Mikal

Who, as we speak...do you think is being "groomed for Presidential Election?...Set...aka Jeb...BUSH...right here in Florida...all decended in form from Preston or Prescott Bush...
what was he?...National Treasurer or some such...at the time of the greatest depression in American history....what's that mate...sniff, sniff...BULLSHIT! oh thank you...

"Jeb for President He's Our Man...If anybody can do it Jeb Bush can!"...a prophesy?...who knows? thus have i heard

Has anyone heard mention of the Trinity of Hell [Evil] currently Rumsfield, Cheney, Bush... Expect A Crown Prince in the not too distant future...

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Mikal

Drift...we are still questing to find a definitive theory of consciousness, it goes on as we debate...

The "we" I am referring to are all those attempting to rise to higher sentience and finding themselves conflicted by higher dimensional beings with pretty astute ability to play around and alter the perceptual experiences of those whom they attempt to control...

Sorry Drift but we are not in the Dark Age...there is quite significant intellectual participation in the higher sciences for this to be...

Isis was the ancient depiction of the power over life and death. She was the mother of Horus. Seth was Cain's brother and the Hebrew scriptors found it necessary to malign Cain and it was all about the ancient obsession with honoring patrilinear succession over matrilinear succession..


Mikal

"Science is nothing more than a prostitute in a lab coat!" The oldest profession known to man in new garment. so-it-is with so many subsidiaries...wake up sister...

Like Einsteins work...sometimes they don;t even know who 'the John' sliipin em the saugase IS! and many do not care!...they're just along for the ride...like everybody else...gimme a break...please? NO WAY! No tickey..NO LAUNDRY!

[Mikal]

Drift I know all about Prescott Bush...IMF big money...finacial backing which raised a nobody like Hitler to power. Gee you have mixed in this discussion so many elements that its become nonsensical. Nobody is denying that Politics has a great potential for corruption and very bad intentions but it is up to collective society to fix and repair its own social and political institutions.

Mikal

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Mikal

Drift I know all about Prescott Bush...IMF big money...finacial backing which raised a nobody like Hitler to power. Gee you have mixed in this discussion so many elements that its become nonsensical. Nobody is denying that Politics has a great potential for corruption and very bad intentions but it is up to collective society to fix and repair its own social and political institutions.

Mikal

any drempt up notions of a "fix" is doomed to failure until the masses awaken to the Truth...and that can begin right now by watching the video link exposinf Big Brother-Big Picture for what it truly IS...Reptillians...if so it might be said who eat their own young...means justifying the ends...IT's OUR CHILDREN THEY WANT...that's the generation THEY are working hardest right now...to get "CONTROL OVER"...becuse that's the comming generation they will have to contend with...if you love kids...look for them...if not conserned about ones self!...

this breaks my heart... I WILL NOT LOOK AWAY!!!

THE CURSE OF SHAME ON THOSE OF SUCH A CALLOUS HEART WHO DO THAT! SO BE IT!

May They reap what they sow!

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Mikal

Drift I know all about Prescott Bush...IMF big money...finacial backing which raised a nobody like Hitler to power. Gee you have mixed in this discussion so many elements that its become nonsensical. Nobody is denying that Politics has a great potential for corruption and very bad intentions but it is up to collective society to fix and repair its own social and political institutions.

Mikal

Non-sensical Mikal???

So the Truth is America a collective society? funded The Nazi Regime?

I redirect your immediate attention the President Kennedy's ground breaking world changing speech of 1961 "The President and The Press...

Geee...really Mikal...?

That's HOW IT WORKS!

sorry sister...I am passionate about this one...as I stated before...it's about our children Honorable Lady...wake-up?...Before the storm-boots marching through your neigborhood do...by then it will truly be...too late...

[Mikal]

Originally Posted by Drifter

any drempt up notions of a "fix" is doomed to failure until the masses awaken to the Truth...and that can begin right now by watching the video link exposinf Big Brother-Big Picture for what it truly IS...Reptillians...if so it might be said who eat their own young...means justifying the ends...IT's OUR CHILDREN THEY WANT...that's the generation THEY are working hardest right now...to get "CONTROL OVER"...becuse that's the comming generation they will have to contend with...if you love kids...look for them...if not conserned about ones self!...

this breaks my heart... I WILL NOT LOOK AWAY!!!

THE CURSE OF SHAME ON THOSE OF SUCH A CALLOUS HEART WHO DO THAT! SO BE IT!

May They reap what they sow!

Hi Drift...sorry did not mean to leave you hanging but something came up. Lets talk about the children...the only way to help them is to educate the parents. They need amunition called good knowledge. I have a parent group I educate. They drop in...we talk..I help them to save their own children. Most had no idea of just how severely our mental environment has been so tinkered and tampered with. You tell one parent...they tell 10 other parents. We only have two choices in the situation...one is to remain passive and do nothing...the other is action and knowing that there is more than one way to skin a cat...so let us not move and function from despair...thats hopelessness drift...if 10,000 people do what I am doing it is chipping away at what hurts the children....


Mikal