[Drifter]

Dear Robert,

Namaste`

I understand, respect and accept your censure.

I do believe a true T.o.E. would necessarily have to include 'politics' or it would not be a true or a complete "T.o.E".

I hope everyone got a link to the info in the post...mankind is doomed by "Big Brother" controls...without even knowing it...and that takes planning...we could do with a culture "shock" of awareness imho...the link I provided is the softest way... [the example of censure you provided is exactly why there will never be a T.o.E. ... Truth reveals more than man can handle] Look in Vain for I...

"Condemnation without Investagation is the Heigth of Ignorance" ~Albert Einstein

Warmest regards

Sincerely
d.

[austintorn@aol.com]

There could be Big Brothers and Big Sisters who wish to take away all of reality just by saying so without the support of investigations shown but for blanket statements and quotes of those who are not here to discuss any questions arising from the fiats.

For employers, parent, and owners of forums, rules can be made to stick.

Robert is only trying to make the place more civilized and attractive. We have few enough members without further scaring away past, present, and future members.

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com There could be Big Brothers and Big Sisters who wish to take away all of reality just by saying so without the support of investigations shown but for blanket statements and quotes of those who are not here to discuss any questions arising from the fiats. For employers, parent, and owners of forums, rules can be made to stick. Robert is only trying to make the place more civilized and attractive. We have few enough members without further scaring away past, present, and future members.

I know a... and I wasn't being condescending...

Nobody loves this forum more than this one... brother to brother...

fiat lux
Drifter

[PoPpAScience]

Hi Drifter;

Thanks for the quote, I have already added it to my signature.
"Condemnation without Investagation is the Heigth of Ignorance" ~Albert Einstein

I personally applaud any move by Robert to control the speech in this forum for the better. I find that there is civil speech and then there is free speech. I know if I start a web site, that I will not allow free speech to run rampant. The main enemy of any forum, is the flooding of threads with free speech of no worth. This is one of the very few sites where a person can have a civil conversation over time where one's replies are not pushed off into infinity by endless free speech. There are chat rooms for free speech, and forums for civil discussions.

[Drifter]

As I tried to say Poppa[oh btw, Your welcome Poppa]...I understand and accept the censure. [and I agree with 'you' as well] but how can the "Truth" get out...under such law...was the point and I don't meab "here" on the forum...but anywhere???

the level of control is buried beneath so many layers of unsupecting subsidiaires we, at the bottom levels, don't see who's at the top of the pyramid pulling the strings! They dont give a damn who wins or loses...because they will in the end...they have control of both sides, unbeknownst to either side!!!

Societies and even Governments are being lead like sides of beef or cattle to a mian objective!!! The link give you the BIG PICTURE about "Big Brother".

Some sheeple are perfectly content in their ignorance...I cite "The Allegory of Plato's Cave as example!

I wasn't arguing, berating, being insolent, obstinate or rude???

The link is what's important. It's the "Truth" for those who investigate can then draw their own conclusions based on twenty years of reasearch by one man...empirically/conscisely presented.

"Discent/Repugnation prior to Investigation." = the same old product...ignorance...

"If we MUST AWAKEN MAY WE AWAKEN TO THE TRUTH!""

Namaste`


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Originally Posted by PoPpAScience Hi Drifter; Thanks for the quote, I have already added it to my signature. "Condemnation without Investagation is the Heigth of Ignorance" ~Albert Einstein I personally applaud any move by Robert to control the speech in this forum for the better. I find that there is civil speech and then there is free speech. I know if I start a web site, that I will not allow free speech to run rampant. The main enemy of any forum, is the flooding of threads with free speech of no worth. This is one of the very few sites where a person can have a civil conversation over time where one's replies are not pushed off into infinity by endless free speech. There are chat rooms for free speech, and forums for civil discussions.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Don't worry, Drift—you can treat it as an illusion.

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com Don't worry, Drift—you can treat it as an illusion.

Superficial logic can't get past its own rules...

no worries here matey...

FIRST RATE INTELLIGENCE

''The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function''
—F. Scott Fitzgerald


For him who penetrates deeply into the roots of logic itself, The Recognition, which remains the magic Touchstone, can be aroused. There seem to be but a small number of such constants, yet upon their recognition all the compulsive power of logic depends. Nearly all men who have understood what these constants are find it impossible not to believe them, but no man can prove them since they form the ground on which all proofs rest. Now whence comes the compelling assurance that these are necessarily true? Experience gives probable knowledge at best, but never compelling assurance; so the source is not in pure experience. The answer is perfectly clear. The power of these constants is due to the fact that they completely constitute a veiled Recognition that the race has completely lost, and they are probably the principle agent that has kept this humanity from becoming wholly insane. Let a man unveil this Recognition and make it immediately and consciously his own, and then he will find in logic a power which, if followed with a single eye, will take him through to the Higher Consciousness. Once given that original Recognition, logic does supply unanswerable demonstration, and thus breaks through the closed vortex of subject-object consciousness.

The only hope for man, taken individually or as a whole, rests upon a process of Awakening, which together with some others, is called "Re-cognition". This is neither pure experience nor pure formal demonstration but a totally different kind of knowledge. It is a "Knowledge through Identity." It is intuition, in the highest sense, but the word 'intuition' covers other meanings; so the former term is less ambiguous. Genuine Knowledge through Identity is infallible and absolute. It is substantial and not relative. It does not merely mean something other than Itself but is absolutely Its own Meaning. Knowledge through Identity is not possessed by any self but Is the SELF. It is not 'knowledge about,' not even in the sense of 'about God,' but is Divinity Itself Thus we have six primary propositions which, when exalted to Recognition, reclaim man unequivocally:

This is The Christ Conscience[Consciousness], spoken of and alluded to, by the psalmist:

1. "I Am not other than God."
2. "God is not other than I."
3. "I Am not other than Knowledge."
4. "Knowledge is not other than I."
5. "God is not other than Knowledge."
6. "Knowledge is not other than God."

Let a man repeat these affirmations, but not as pure prepositions. Let him add to those repetitions some measure of that indefinable quality We call 'Recognition,'and they will at once become magical agents with some measure of potency, ranging from a faint stirring of a bare sense of Beyondness up to a power so great that the whole universe is, at it were, dislodged from its commanding position. I Know this to be true, but how can I transfer this certainty? ~unknown

yoo hoo???

[austintorn@aol.com]

Drift, it's just much ado about nothing.

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Drifter I do believe a true T.o.E. would necessarily have to include 'politics' or it would not be a true or a complete "T.o.E". d.

Nature's true governance is her struggle to maintain the balance of equalibrium.
And it is the inequitable unnatural imbalance of mankind that upsets her so.

=
MJA

[austintorn@aol.com]

Having cameras everywhere reduces crime and also resolves kids' claims of 'He hit me first."