Forces of Nature

[baudrunner]

Every meteorologist understands the concept of the heat exchanger, so it should come as no strange notion that the winds around the eye of the hurricane must generate a lot of heat, as they rush the air around and around enough to do that. That heat can comes from somewhere out of some other form.

I think that we might arrest serious hurricane activity by spilling heated seawater into the ocean zones where hurricanes begin. Based on the idea that all those icebergs calved from the north by global warming are flowing south and are interfering with the normal temperatures of the ocean waters by cooling them, thereby initiating the exchange of energy into the excited dynamic that spawns hurricanes, I think that by warming those waters those winds would probably be less likely to generate more than as much energy in heat. Nothing would be lost to nature and much would be gained by prevention.

[analog]

Every meteorologist understands the concept of the heat exchanger, so it should come as no strange notion that the winds around the eye of the hurricane must generate a lot of heat, as they rush the air around and around enough to do that. That heat can comes from somewhere out of some other form.

I think that we might arrest serious hurricane activity by spilling heated seawater into the ocean zones where hurricanes begin. Based on the idea that all those icebergs calved from the north by global warming are flowing south and are interfering with the normal temperatures of the ocean waters by cooling them, thereby initiating the exchange of energy into the excited dynamic that spawns hurricanes, I think that by warming those waters those winds would probably be less likely to generate more than as much energy in heat. Nothing would be lost to nature and much would be gained by prevention.

Hi Baud,

I like your concept of prevention, but I'm a bit confused. I'm probably misunderstanding something, but are these mechanics of hurricane development part of your personal views?

I thought a hurricane developed due to the heat within the ocean, which was its source of heat, whereby its interactions where a process of heat dissipation, and would actually weaken when passing over colder ocean waters, or land. http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/gu...grow/home.rxml. I think the flow on your exchanger might be going the wrong way, which would be tricky due to the preference of hot air to rise, which is the mechanics by which we get the pin-wheel view due to the Coriolis Effect.

By my limited understanding, colder ocean waters should lessen hurricane development due to the requirement of the ocean water to be above 81 degrees for proper development. The energy requirements (in all its conserved forms) to heat or cool, and effectively maintain water temperatures within more than a small local area would probably also be massive, with potential logistics issues; especially if the area we wanted to affect was very far out at sea. I think some currently hold the view that towing an iceberg into the path of a hurricane would be the most effective/efficient means (currently at our disposal) to weaken one. The addition/introduction of heated water in the area of formation would in effect be pouring fuel to the fire.

I do like the idea of prevention though. I've been bashed by two of them this year.

later,

Tim

[labelwench]

An interesting observation to me, is that while the polar ice is definitely thinning receding at present, there seems to be considerably more severe weather and hurricanes in recent years, and extremes of weather in many regions around the globe.

The cooling effect of melting ice would appear to be of lessor influence than the forces which are acting to bring about it's melt, would be my thoughts at this time.

[austintorn@aol.com]

The effect of the melting ice may only come of age when coastal cities are inundated, the ice-melting cause meanwhile also stirring up the weather. Earthquakes, though, would seem to be another matter.

I'd hate to be in Indonesia, where there are earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcanoes erupting in that 'ring of fire' zone. Even Australia would be better.

[WHY 137?]

Every meteorologist understands the concept of the heat exchanger, so it should come as no strange notion that the winds around the eye of the hurricane must generate a lot of heat, as they rush the air around and around enough to do that. That heat can comes from somewhere out of some other form.

I think that we might arrest serious hurricane activity by spilling heated seawater into the ocean zones where hurricanes begin. Based on the idea that all those icebergs calved from the north by global warming are flowing south and are interfering with the normal temperatures of the ocean waters by cooling them, thereby initiating the exchange of energy into the excited dynamic that spawns hurricanes, I think that by warming those waters those winds would probably be less likely to generate more than as much energy in heat. Nothing would be lost to nature and much would be gained by prevention.

mind if I ask...
of all the symbols that date back to the time of the gods, which symbol would you use to represent the dynamic swirly, twirly, whorl whirlpool like forces of the hurricane?

any favorites?
I have mine.
The one symbol I would recommend is 12,000 years old and is also connected to Clouds, Thunder, Lightning, and the force that turns the Windmill too.

namaste

[kowalskil]

Every meteorologist understands the concept of the heat exchanger, so it should come as no strange notion that the winds around the eye of the hurricane must generate a lot of heat, as they rush the air around and around enough to do that. That heat can comes from somewhere out of some other form.

I think that we might arrest serious hurricane activity by spilling heated seawater into the ocean zones where hurricanes begin. Based on the idea that all those icebergs calved from the north by global warming are flowing south and are interfering with the normal temperatures of the ocean waters by cooling them, thereby initiating the exchange of energy into the excited dynamic that spawns hurricanes, I think that by warming those waters those winds would probably be less likely to generate more than as much energy in heat. Nothing would be lost to nature and much would be gained by prevention.

A quantitative approach (considering the amount of water in oceans, mass of icebergs, their rate of supply, etc.) would show if this can be a significant effect.

Ludwik