Something from Nothing

[SB_UK]

ps

Next -
- imagine that increasing the energy to the arrow allows us to twist our perspective from first person head on to third person
side-on -

from on-site with ao@at,Leskey and ~boots~ as the evolution of the standing wave through its point of inflection ([.]).

un -> wave

u[.]n -> wave with point of inflection shown

Increase energy to u[.]n on plane y^ x> and we'll observe evolution (motion) of wave u[.]n on axis z.

.........n'
......u[.]n
.......u'

of wave u[.]n on axis z which'll describe u'[.]n' on axis z -
- hence transforming the standing wave from outside of our frame of reference
u[.]n
to within
u'[.]n'

We are folded structures upon plane u'n' and so are only sensitive to motion within this (our) frame of reference -
where *this* (our) frame of reference -
is the 'space' within which structures are ~by~their~very~ definition~ restricted.

Structures such as the images which begin the music video (above).

[labelwench]

After all, we're ultimately just part of the calculation also, and though we may not be able to provide proof by predicting every aspect of an interacting system due to the limitations of our instruments, which is some people's concept of determinism, IMHO we have turned enough of those instruments on enough aspects of our physical interacting world from corner to corner, and measured from the smallest of scales to the largest to establish a paradigm which predicts how our instruments behave, along with the portraits they paint and the philosophies they conjure within our minds.

Originally posted by analog

As she worked at her task, the woman wondered if she could find the words to express the strange energy field that she tapped into on Saturday nights. Sometimes, also, with a horse, if it was very trusting and attuned to her, they could briefly share this similar entanglement.

She wondered if the technology of today could discern the difference in her brainwave patterns, could they detect the change from four years go, when she was a daylight oriented individual and the present, when she spent a greater portion of her time on a reversed schedule.

Before arriving at work, she would spend ten minutes under the night sky, just clearing her mind of worry and distraction. She could not "connect" if her thoughts were distressed, or if her co-workers were very disoriented, as was sometimes the case. Not that they spoke much, it was the personal energy they "leaked" if they were "out of synch" as happens from time to time with the people of the night. Daysiders really didn't understand. The people who could tolerate nights for years in a demanding environment, were different. Science would eventually prove this fact and perhaps a guideline would be established to identify those most suited to nights, saving everyone a lot of time, energy and expense instead of learning by trial and error.

When she had arrived, she "attenuated" to her co-workers. All seemed to have had enough rest and there was no undercurrent of pain, which some nights was palpable, although none spoke to it. A slight "ripple" she detected. The one fellow then mentioned that he had nearly overslept. That explained matters, and he would re-orient shortly. It should be a good night for "universal assistance", and they could use it, to task to hand being of significant scope.

Once the team was deployed, she assumed her usual function, undertaking the parts of the task that the others liked least. It was all the same to her, a thing that needed doing.

As she became "one" with her mission, her mind felt like a hologram in the making, for want of a better model. As she looked at each label, the price clearly stated, and surrounded by a considerable amount of information to discern it from the other many thousands of products in the store, a visual file of each product would instantly pop into her thoughts. If she could not actually visualize the size, shape and colour of the product, she would receive instead, the "neighbourhood shot" of where it should be found or was last located, all products subject to relocation at intervals.

The pictures began to flow rapidly, as she settled into a pace. Her thoughts began to move on other levels, even as she edited each slip of paper, thence putting it to it's place. Her peripheral vision was soft and broad, she knew whom was working where, her mind sorted all of the sounds of the building, inside and outside, for her. Several of the discussions in the forum threads ran through her thoughts as well, some of the postings entangling, as common ground was expressed by the various individuals.

That which all sought to measure and describe was her ally this night. The fundamental substance of the space was a field of energy of a low frequency, but endless depth. She felt like she was tapping into the universe itself.

On the rare occasion that she could really connect deeply, she was tireless. Three 10 minute breaks in an 8 hour shift, were all she took, no food, a half cup of coffee drank quickly. She did not want to lose "the flow".

"Yes, fellas," she thought, "it's out there, and it's really impressive stuff, when you can hitch a ride. We are surrounded by the solution, trying to pin it down, all the while it is throwing itself at us. Rather like trying to hold water with a sieve, lol."

The human mind, and the vessel it rested in, were greatly underutilized bio-technology, she pondered.....

[austintorn@aol.com]

Zero-Sum Game?

Plus and minus from ‘nothing’ came to be;
But, while most charges rejoined, some went free,
The pluses forming matter, energy,
And the minuses forming gravity.





The Shimmering Rainbow of Now

The light spreads forth all,
Illuminating reality,
Then gravity recalls it,
Erasing it.

(Written in the spirit of Nobody Nowhere)

[melanie]

Greg, thanks for taking the time out to reply.

I'm still trying to digest your reply, will have to think it over and get back to you.


My definition of a 'material' nothing is Consciousness.

The fact that we might question Reality during the "waking state"
as possibly a dream shows that there is something aware of both the "waking state" and "dream state"

something that knows the illusion of the dream while it's happening,
and therefore knows the illusion of the waking state also.

That "something" is Consciousness.

Consciousness is prior to both of these states
aware of the unreality of the dream,
aware of the assumption of Reality of the waking state.

It is Consciousness that recognizes the unreality inherent in the dream
that's how that "state of illusion"
is recognized as a possibility during the "waking state".

That familiarity of feeling "is this a dream" comes from Consciousness,
the presence which is aware of both states.

The consciousness that is aware of your ''nightly dreams''
is the same one consciousness aware of ''waking state''
You are awareness one without a second.

Consciousness is the "dreamer" the "you", the individual, the dream character,
is ultimately known to be a passing "state".

Reality, made up of NOTHING but Consciousness.
The substance of the dream itself IS Consciousness.
All objects in the dream are MADE OF that pure subjective Consciousness.

All there is is Consciousness = TOEverythingAndNothing.

[Graybeard]

a guitar string at rest is nothing -
when plucked is something. All we need is a matrix (at rest) and to define the need for delta - delta - for anything to 'exist' to our senses it *need* move.

Hi SB .... In this thread, concepts are allowed in order to describe, but I'm actually interested in the mechanics involved in the actual fields ?

cool bananas ... greg

[austintorn@aol.com]

Reality, made up of NOTHING but Consciousness.—Mel

This was a BIG LEAP from what you were saying previous to it.

[melanie]

Reality, made up of NOTHING but Consciousness.—Mel

This was a BIG LEAP from what you were saying previous to it.

[Graybeard]

Consciousness is the "dreamer" the "you", the individual, the dream character,
is ultimately known to be a passing "state".

Reality, made up of NOTHING but Consciousness.
The substance of the dream itself IS Consciousness.
All objects in the dream are MADE OF that pure subjective Consciousness.

All there is is Consciousness = TOEverythingAndNothing.

Hi Sweetpea, I like your concept, especially the graphic. You are following my idea.

But I can't agree with 'consciousness' ... or at the least, I can't fit it in to the part of the 'creation', or more specifically, the moment after that I am visualising.

I'm referring to a material nothing, a moment in time, or just before time.

I am talking about a time, or event, when the complete universe as you see it today, was packed up, shoved in, and sat upon to get the lid closed, into a 'suitcase' that was less 10^-15 meters in size, which is the size of a proton (I think).

0.0000000000000001 meters (or metres)

Furthermore, I am saying that it 'suddenly went from that size to the size of a golf ball, to the size of our universe in 10^-33 seconds.

0.0000000000000000000000000000000001 second.

Actually, the inflationary expansion only took from 10^-35 to 10^-33 seconds. After this amount of time, the event could say to itself 'Today I am a Universe'

What I am suggesting in this thread, is that the 'event' could have arisen from a zero value field, or nothing !

any clearer .... lol

cool bananas ... greg

[austintorn@aol.com]

Little wrinkles on the tiny sweetpea at the beginning made much ado about 'nothing' by swelling and magnifying through inflation into some really huge ripply believe it or not massive stuff.

[melanie]

Actually, the inflationary expansion only took from 10^-35 to 10^-33 seconds. After this amount of time, the event could say to itself

'Today I am a Universe'

I leave you in peace now Greg.

RIP Rest in presence.