Light as a Dual Wave Phenomena

[JAK]

LIGHT AS A SPIRAL FORM
It would seem that photons of light are spiral in form. No matter from what perspective they are viewed, they always appear as an up-and-down sign wave. Though this is likely a result of our equipment, no variation of shape and form indicates that it "looks" the same from any perspective. Coils and spirals also have this attribute:
No matter what the perspective - above, below, any side - the up-and-down sine wave persists. Further, when seen straight on, the photos give concentric circular shapes.

In addition to the shape, the amplitude implies that it is a radius. As energy is added, and the amplitude increases, the wave form seems to be free of any "ceiling" preventing its growth. Thus, the focus of this system, which we call a wave of light, must be the "centerline". The centerline must be the attractor of the system since it is the stable focus. Thus, the attributes, which we use to portray a wave of light, all imply a spiral or coil as the fundamental aspects of the system we call "light".

Oct 28, 2009 12:06 PM

LIGHT AS A DUAL WAVE
If light is a spiral, then it will have a left or right spin. For want of any evidence, I will assume the "right hand rule" with a fist and the thumb extended. The thumb will point the direction of light, and the curled fingers will represent the direction of spin.

Given this spin, torque immediately comes to mind. With torque, the spinning would destroy the spiral unless countered by another and opposite spin. Thus, two opposing forces would create a static equilibrium. However, a wobble would occur if the opposing forces were not perfectly synchronized.

It is known that two sine waves which have slightly different frequencies will create a "beat wave" (see http://paws.kettering.edu/~drussell/...rposition.html). The shape of a beat wave is very similar to the shape of diagrams of "photon packets". This shape is also suggestive of the gyroscope (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precess) which is a torque-induced precession.

If a light photon is actually a dual set of spiral waves forming a "beat wave", then the shape of the photon would be explained by its gyroscopic torque-induced precession.

Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM

YOUNG'S DOUBLE-SLIT EXPERIMENT
If a light photon is actually a dual wave spiral causing a "beat wave", then the "corpuscular" nature of light is merely an illusion, and light is fundamentally a wave form. This is consistent with the belief that as the frequency of light waves shorten, the more "corpuscular" (or particle-like) they become. In fact, with the Compton Effect, high-frequency X-rays can knock an electron out of its orbit. However, the X-ray loses energy in the collision and suffers a resulting lower frequency/longer wave-length (The Laws of Physics, M. A. Rothman, 1963, Princeton Plasma Physics Lab). Thus, the frequency of light contributes to its particle appearance as does a "beat wave" explanation.

If a photon is truly a wave in "particle clothing", it would explain Thomas Young's famous double-slit experiment (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment). The corpuscular nature would be an emergent property of the dual beat wave and/or a high frequency. Yet, the wave characteristics of the double-slit experiment would belie the wave form underneath.

Oct 28, 2009 2:24 PM


ELECTRON/POSITRON ANNIHILATION
It has been well-established that an electron colliding with a positron will create at least two high-energy gamma photons (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro...n_annihilation). Obviously an electron and a positron are different, but the difference between two photons cannot be determined (yet). Therefore, to maintain the Conservation of Energy Law, the positrons and electrons must have multiple aspects, and these aspects must be able to be reassembled as either photons or particles. Since two entities colliding results in two subsequent entities, Ockham's Razor would suggest the minimum number of aspects, which I suggest is two per particle of photon.

If photons are actually dual waves, then one wave will have a "right-hand" spin, and the other would have a "left-hand" spin in order to provide the torque-induced precession which creates the "wave packet" or "beat wave" quality. If true, then the only other assemblies would be a "left-to-left" configuration and a "right-to-right" configuration. Such differences would likely be noticeable in the characteristics of the entities. Clearly, positrons and electrons are noticeably different where two photons are not.

Thus, a dual spiral photon would provide the minimum number of characteristics (2) to provide 3 types of assemblies: left-right, left-left, and right-right. The first (left-right) would be the preferred and most stable state of photons, and the other two would be the less preferred states (left-left and right-right) which would equate to positrons and electrons. Since gamma photons are high frequency, it would be expected that this high energy was encapsulated in positrons and electrons in order to maintain the Conservation of Energy law.

Oct 28, 2009 3:02 PM

Thoughts?
-JAK

[Graybeard]

Good Post Jak ..... My only comment is that the 'right hand rule' is down to us. ie: we could have just as easily selected a 'left hand rule'. An evolutionary random choice.

cool bananas ... greg

[JAK]

Good Post Jak ..... My only comment is that the 'right hand rule' is down to us. ie: we could have just as easily selected a 'left hand rule'. An evolutionary random choice.

cool bananas ... greg

I agree; "left-hand" and "right-hand" are arbitrary for the moment. But I suspect that the direction of spin will be significant for the eventual differentiation of the electron and positron.

Thanks, Greg.

[Graybeard]

I'm not quite sure about 'direction'. I feel the importance lies more in the 'difference' between the spin of the two.

cool bananas ... greg

[JAK]

I'm not quite sure about 'direction'. I feel the importance lies more in the 'difference' between the spin of the two.

cool bananas ... greg

I agree; the difference is key. And it's premature to determine what that "difference" is. Yet, the dual spiral seems compelling to me.

And you are also right about my introducing confusing with the term "direction". Though I was thinking about the "left" or "right" handedness at the time, the term "direction" should be reserved for the trajectory of the photon (regardless of how many attributes it may have).

I know that "spin" is the common term used in physics, but it does not convey the topography I am highlighting, even though, technically, it may mean the same. Perhaps I should use "left-spiral" and "right-spiral" as my terms.

[Profpat]

Hi JAK;

Light is a 2 dimensional transverse wave. It has an electric moment and a magnetic moment. This gives the light wave packet, length, width and heigth, thus the 3 dimensionality or particle like characteristics.



Best,

Pat

[JAK]

Hi JAK;

Light is a 2 dimensional transverse wave. It has an electric moment and a magnetic moment. This gives the light wave packet, length, width and heigth, thus the 3 dimensionality or particle like characteristics.

Pat

Thanks, ProfPat! Your Wiki page points to some more interesting info, too: http://www.acoustics.salford.ac.uk/f.../wavetypes.htm

The use of a "slinky" in the demonstrations is close to my spiral coil analogy. But I'm not sure it is identical. Though a slinky and my coil are the same, the Wiki page seems to focus on the x/y and y/z planes as keeping the light and magnetic waves separate. And I did not see an indication of the two waves being slightly out-of-phase, a requisite for the bulging or "packet" effect for photons which I am proposing.

Also, I am not finding an indication or discussion of a spiral either. All of the demos assume the same orientation to the passing wave. But this could only be true with a spiraling wave. Either it is assumed, or the issue is not recognized.

As for relating it to the spirit of my idea, I would need to accommodate a "light/magnetic" construction as preferred, with "light/light" and "magnetic/magnetic" as the two other configurations. However, these do not seem to match reality. Thus, to incorporate the magnetic wave, I would need to add it to the other two: light(left)/magnetic and light(right)/magnetic. Perhaps the "magnetic" factor causes the left or right twist of the two spirals. In other words, I would have two light and two magnetic spirals configured in pairs: light&magnetic/left and light&magnetic/right.

Of course, the light spiral may be the magnetic spiral, too, and I am back to my original proposition: light(left) and light(right). In which case, the spiral is indicative of the magnetic polarity. In other words, light(+) and light(-). (I kinda like that!) So, an electron would be a dual wave photon(--) and a positron would be a dual wave photon(++), but a normal light photon would remain balanced as a dual wave photon(+-).

Profpat, your info is very useful, and it's helping me a lot. Thanks!
-JAK

[Profpat]

Hi JAK;

I believe the magnetic wave is always perpendicular to the electric wave, thus giving it particle or 3D characteristics, of L,W,H.

Best,

Pat