Nature!

[SteveA]

I love this song Steve.. thanks.

It reminds me how grand the illusion really is.

I don't think it's specifically illusion ... it's just another piece of reality, for the moment.

Nature is non-dual by nature, it is only a thought away from duality.

Yes, something's got to hold it together though logic appears incapable of describing how it's possible - it just works. How becomes rather irrelevant ... how should it be?

Who thinks?? .....

... or what first conceived of thought, or is there a number that describes how to count, or a program that can compute whether or not its running?

Non-duality is a glimpse of emptiness which contains no belief, no faith, no meaning, no thing.
A close encounter with non-duality can shatter all belief systems.

I don't know ... It's been a pretty wild ride so far. Difficult to imagine anything left to shatter, though yes, there are still a few things that likely could ... though they'd have to be pretty dang impressive

It can leave you psychologically naked.

Psychological nudity is an easy one ... nah, gotta push the envelope a little on that

Do you want to go there?

Not yet. Having too much fun enjoying the sites and sounds.

You are already there, there is no escape from THIS

You can't get there from here

Can't get there from here, eh? That sounds like a fun challenge!

You feeling in a betting mood? (I'm certain it could take some time, so the deal would have to be that if I made it, you pay me then, but if I don't by the end of time you can collect after that. Those are odds I can live with! )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9p31...eature=related

I think these are actually a bit larger and have colors of the rainbow that haven't been seen yet. Maybe we'll get there someday ...

[labelwench]

Who thinks?

Originally posted by Melanie

LOL.......

At least some of the time, the body appears to be following the direction of the brain it is packing around.

But then........thoughts interrupt the progress being made.

And you know, I'm never quite certain 'who' or 'what' to blame when the mirror only shows one reflection.

Question: Do illusions have shadows?
What about reflections?

Of course......the shadow and the reflection could be part of the overall illusion.......

A life of certain uncertainty........

Guess I shall have to get used to it or else I shall be resigned to eternity in the science forums.....

[SteveA]

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Guess I shall have to get used to it or else I shall be resigned to eternity in the science forums.....

Yes, scary thought ... if science is an institution, that would mean being INSTITUTIONALIZED!! Yikes!

[melanie]

Hi guys and gals .... in a rush, so

just dropping by to leave you this video ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfnaMbuVWXQ

and thanks for being not so serious, good, fun sports. (gratitude)

ps, i'll reply to your posts later, btw,nice nature video Steve and song.

[SteveA]

Hi guys and gals .... in a rush, so

just dropping by to leave you this video ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfnaMbuVWXQ

Oh that's soooo kewl! Thank you much! I loved it. LMAO

and thanks for being not so serious, good, fun sports. (gratitude)

My hat's off to you for the fun:

ps, i'll reply to your posts later, btw,nice nature video Steve and song.

Oh, just in case you missed it, the black segment at the end of the video was a photo of the infinite mind behind the rest ... the picture apparently didn't come out with much detail ... or maybe they had the flash turned off?

[melanie]

I don't think it's specifically illusion ... it's just another piece of reality, for the moment.

The idea of a separate 'you' is the illusion.

The 'you' is an idea formed from the formless...A double negative...A dream within a dream.

The 'I' of you is the same One as the 'I' of me...The same substance.

How can One thing exist?

It can't except as dream substance...Consciousness observing Consciousness.

or what first conceived of thought,

That's inconceivable.

or is there a number that describes how to count, or a program that can compute whether or not its running?

I think that's conceivable.

[melanie]

Yes, scary thought ... if science is an institution, that would mean being INSTITUTIONALIZED!! Yikes!

Anything that demands proof requires institutionalization.....Yikes!!

[melanie]

Question: Do illusions have shadows?
What about reflections?

The nice thing about shadows is that you can paint them any colour.

Of course......the shadow and the reflection could be part of the overall illusion.......

A life of certain uncertainty........

Irrational isn't it

Blessed are the forgetful

[SteveA]

The idea of a separate 'you' is the illusion.

The 'you' is an idea formed from the formless...A double negative...A dream within a dream.

The 'I' of you is the same One as the 'I' of me...The same substance.

How can One thing exist?

It can't except as dream substance...Consciousness observing Consciousness.


That's inconceivable.


I think that's conceivable.

I'd gone a long way, but it didn't matter how far I went nor how precise the logic was ... there was never an explanation for how time or change was possible to experience/witness. Absolutely impossible, yet it exists, nonetheless despite all the impecible evidence to the contrary that it shouldn't exist ... absolute creative insanity!!! The nerve!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfnaMbuVWXQ

Incredible! The guy is being absolutely creative and following no rules at all except to communicate truth in a language that can be comprehended.

And that's also just as (beautifully) incredible and "impossible" as this:



What's ironic to this is that most everything in this is perfectly logical to describe and could be transformed in thousands of similarly beautiful (and that's the key) ways, but the fact that the waves are moving is absolutely insane. The wind, the ocean, or music ... all are absolutely crazy! (What enjoyable insanity)

So I think I've done enough work (for now) in proving all of the things that are impossible to exist ... it's absolutely huge, and I'm moving toward seeing those impossibilities become reality ... and all the beautiful little I's that need dotting and T's to cross along the way There's so much impossible stuff "out there" that I'm itching to go find it all, but it's just one step at a time (Just making sure not to miss anything important - the storyline is much better when one is following along).

Thanks again for dumping that bucket of water on me and my beautiful castles in the sky. It was a (likely uncoincidental and) nicely timed moment to offend my sense of reality and get it to click together so that those castles can finally gain a degree of freedom to move around and leave the realm of impossibility (Just had to add some time to loosen up the logical mortar a bit )

It would be fun to list all of the things that were considered impossible in the past - people flying? Insanity! Tricorders from Star Trek? Impossible! Pictures that move and can be carried around in your hand?! OMG, you must have fallen off your rocker!!! LMAO!

Time to head back to the future!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NMph943tsw

“When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.”

... and time conveniently goes where it wants to. Looks like all the pieces are set up correctly to me.

[melanie]

I'd gone a long way, but it didn't matter how far I went nor how precise the logic was ... there was never an explanation for how time or change was possible to experience/witness. Absolutely impossible, yet it exists, nonetheless despite all the impecible evidence to the contrary that it shouldn't exist ... absolute creative insanity!!! The nerve!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfnaMbuVWXQ

Incredible! The guy is being absolutely creative and following no rules at all except to communicate truth in a language that can be comprehended.

And that's also just as (beautifully) incredible and "impossible" as this:

Great post Steve, your enthusiasm for learning shines through your words, and is delightful to witness.
I'm glad you liked the video.

Reality is an illusion, but the experience is real.

Who is 'experiencing' ? who is the 'I' experiencing all this.....that is the never ending question.

We must conclude that all is Consciousness, or Imagination.

Imagination can paint reality any colour it want's to,after all,
the fundamental function of Consciousness is to conceptualize the non-conceptual.

So, absolutely anything can exist, but only in the imagination, and the imagination is a physical phenomena.
What a paradox!!

For example, grass is only green, because we have been conditioned to believe it is,
perhaps if someone had said grass is pink, imagine how different reality would appear to your senses then.

So in affect, nothing is impossible.

And just because we can't see something, doesn't mean it's not there, like gravity, we can't see gravity, we can only feel it.
Same goes for love, we can't see love, we can only feel it, same for everything else.

There must be much more going around us, that our limited ordinary 5 senses do not allow us to perceive....unless?

We are infinite potential