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08-06-2004, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DWB The General Theory of Relativity is a geometrical interpretation of gravity not a force interpretation that Newton proposed. The proper name for the General Theory is Geometrodynamics which describes dynamics on a curved surface. So you could say that, in this theory at least, gravity is not a force at all. That is the genius of Albert Einstein. | Ok, Then in that case all talk of an alledged spoin-2 graviton in standard model is a pipe dream as ii is in Loopo Quatum Gravity (Lee Smilin) and suppose stirng theory.
GR rules that space-time is goemtry and not a force.
Thanks Rybo
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08-07-2004, 06:50 PM
| | The General Theory replaces force with curved space time. It is a very difficult theory to verify experimentally. Is it right or wrong remains to be seen. Theories are important because they help us frame better questions.
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Originally Posted by DWB The General Theory replaces force with curved space time. It is a very difficult theory to verify experimentally. Is it right or wrong remains to be seen. Theories are important because they help us frame better questions. | DWb, regarless how many times ive heard that space is curved, no one has satisfied my curiosity as to the medium of this "space."
Seriously. If consider a true vacumn or void space outiside of our finite phyiscal Universe as a true nothing and then consider a space within our finitte physical Universe we obviously have space filled with many types of fields and particles adn no true void of nothingness space, so,
when you others say space is curved i scracth my head. What is this space made of that is curved?
Rybo
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08-08-2004, 12:46 AM
| | Deeply buried in our subconscious, are many incorrect preconceived notions and assumptions about space. It is not an easy process to identify all of the assumptions we make not being aware that we even make them. These assumptions are applied unknowingly and limit our ability to study or even think about it.
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08-08-2004, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DWB Deeply buried in our subconscious, are many incorrect preconceived notions and assumptions about space. It is not an easy process to identify all of the assumptions we make not being aware that we even make them. These assumptions are applied unknowingly and limit our ability to study or even think about it. | DWB, im not sure what subconcious has to do with "identifying" the medium of a space that is composed of a sea of fermions and bosons, both virtual and real.
I think it is 5-fold icosahedral gravity field that is that is the essential fabric of space.
When it contracts it does so in a fashion that creates 4-fold fermionic matter. http://home.usit.net/~rybo6/rybo/id2.html
Rybo
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08-08-2004, 02:51 PM
| | Identifying primitive misconceptions and rejecting them forces our minds to recreate our mental picture of our world without them allowing us to think along thought lines that we didn’t know existed. It is extremely difficult to let loose just a single one of these preconceived notions because they are buried so deep and we take them for granted and rejecting them is unthinkable.
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08-10-2004, 03:03 AM
| | Personal Log: 1: World View
During our earliest years, our minds start putting together a logical consistent picture together that represents our world. Our minds make many primitive assumptions or postulates regarding the world in which we live.
These preconceived notions and assumptions for the most part are accepted without question, taken for granted, and totally ignored by our conscious mind. To challenge or reject any one of these primitives is unthinkable because that would through our conceived world into turmoil.
I began removing these primitives from my world view two decades ago. This left me roaming around in the darkness of my imagination trying to put the pieces of my world back together. There were times when I was elated because I thought that I had found something in the darkness, but it turned out to be yet another primitive that had to be discarded.
My imagination stumbled along lines of thought I couldn’t have ever found otherwise. This is my personal journey of rebuilding my world view. A different logical consistent picture of my world put together with a new set of primitives.
I have developed a vocabulary that enables me to verbalize this world of mine fairly well. So I am slowly taking the next step I like to think as my beginning.
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08-17-2004, 04:28 AM
| | DWB, could you give us some examples of those misconceptions you're trying (or have succeeded) to remove; maybe others can share their own.
Curved space or gravity, I keep my opinion (which I expressed somewhere else on this site) that you would really have to explain the three dimensions of space, and the nature of time before you can explain interactions. Only then you can define what movement through space is, and why it happens (ie forces, inertia etc)
Of course you can approach this from the other end, trying to define gravity first, but you still need to end up with an explanation for space and time.
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08-18-2004, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cristian DWB, could you give us some examples of those misconceptions you're trying (or have succeeded) to remove; maybe others can share their own.
Curved space or gravity, I keep my opinion (which I expressed somewhere else on this site) that you would really have to explain the three dimensions of space, and the nature of time before you can explain interactions. Only then you can define what movement through space is, and why it happens (ie forces, inertia etc)
Of course you can approach this from the other end, trying to define gravity first, but you still need to end up with an explanation for space and time.
I don't think I've seen any TOEs explaining that, have you? |
Since 1984, I have been working on a geometry that is pointless (no concept of a point). That has forced me to think along thought lines that I never would have thought otherwise. Twenty years later It is still a work in progress, but it is the progress I have made that changed my worldview. Think about doing physics in this geometry.
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08-19-2004, 07:14 AM
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Your theory suggests that geometry is important to understanding physics. Does your theory include fractals?
I believe that fractals are responsible for creating the patterns in the ether that make the fundamental particles.
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