there's more than one gravitational force (IMHO)

[tony_fleming]

hi, just testing the water;

in EMSFT see my other post, gravitation is handled via LINEAR d.e's, a linear version of GR and hence much more tractable numerically.

from the mathematics it appears that there are exactly four gravitational fields all on different gauges; the solar system is the first, the galaxy is next weaker, the super-cluster is next and maybe the universal scale (one universe amongst multiverses) is the last and weakest; each of these forms a series where the centre is oscillating between white and black holes ( so there's an enormous black hole at the centre of teh universe); these 4 are in the form of a series; the forces appear to be based on the photon's electromagnetic structure, the first is like a differential of E and H-fields that we experience on the terrestrial domain. further, each of the four gravitational forces has a different 'spin associated with it.

for instance the perihelion of mercury is a spin ahead (? i think from memory); at the galactic domain, the spin is shifted by 90 degrees, so it nether adds or detracts from the orbital velocity; at the supercluster level it be opposite whatever it is at the solar system level and so on.

this can all be tested numerically (much easier than GR which needs supercomputers to crunch each problem) it does appear to my calculations to give reasonable agreement with mercury's perihelion calculated from GR.

enough for now, i'm off to bed!! cheers all

[tony_fleming]

hi, check out www.unifiedphysics.com it's getting underway now. lot's a work still to do but it is on the way. so any fellow mathematicians, (bio)physicists etc especially welcome.

Regards Tony

[d p fitzpatrick]

hi, just testing the water;

in EMSFT see my other post, gravitation is handled via LINEAR d.e's, a linear version of GR and hence much more tractable numerically.

from the mathematics it appears that there are exactly four gravitational fields all on different gauges; the solar system is the first, the galaxy is next weaker, the super-cluster is next and maybe the universal scale (one universe amongst multiverses) is the last and weakest; each of these forms a series where the centre is oscillating between white and black holes ( so there's an enormous black hole at the centre of teh universe); these 4 are in the form of a series; the forces appear to be based on the photon's electromagnetic structure, the first is like a differential of E and H-fields that we experience on the terrestrial domain. further, each of the four gravitational forces has a different 'spin associated with it.

for instance the perihelion of mercury is a spin ahead (? i think from memory); at the galactic domain, the spin is shifted by 90 degrees, so it nether adds or detracts from the orbital velocity; at the supercluster level it be opposite whatever it is at the solar system level and so on.

this can all be tested numerically (much easier than GR which needs supercomputers to crunch each problem) it does appear to my calculations to give reasonable agreement with mercury's perihelion calculated from GR.

enough for now, i'm off to bed!! cheers all

Definitely TRUE

I've been stating, for many years now, that future scientists will demand that we give the specific gravitational frequency that we are talking about BEFORE we talk about gravity.

Gravitation seems to stem from one of the broadest bands of frequencies yet.


Cheers

Fitz

[tony_fleming]

Fitz,

can you expand on what you're saying please? is it theory based or a more intuitive consideration?

Tony

[d p fitzpatrick]

Tony - I'll let you decide. Here are some links for you to check.

http://www.rbduncan.com/pge1.html

http://www.rbduncan.com/TOEbyFitzpatrick.htm

web page



Cheers

Fitz

[d p fitzpatrick]

hi, check out www.unifiedphysics.com it's getting underway now. lot's a work still to do but it is on the way. so any fellow mathematicians, (bio)physicists etc especially welcome.

Regards Tony

Yes, I just looked at your website.

Very good.

What you need to do now is get the masses coming to your site.

I've discovered a few of the tricks and will be glad to share them with you.

You need the volume because Google and other search engines rank you by volume.



Cheers

Fitz

[tony_fleming]

Yes, I just looked at your website.

Very good.

What you need to do now is get the masses coming to your site.

I've discovered a few of the tricks and will be glad to share them with you.

You need the volume because Google and other search engines rank you by volume.



Cheers

Fitz

fitz i'd be more than happy to pick your brains to get the web volume up and tks for the complements; i do think this theory is the goods!! it has both maths and predictions;

Tony

[tony_fleming]

pinched a bit of the website to outline the four gravitational domains inside SFT (self-field theory). note that the stated effects cause fields to flow between the 'particles' eg black hole to blackhole. these fields can 'collapse' as the energy density varies throughout space. so this is a bit like annihilation-creation theory seen within particle-physics. this is where the photonic chemistry comes in as the field 'string' between particles changes its type of photonic compound or state; then as the energy density rises again as it leavea deep space and approached the particle it is flowing to, the photonic type changes again, and reverts back to gluons.

note that there's an oscillating sequence running through the energy forms of each domain starting with ATOMS-centres are negative energy.

SOLAR SYSTEM FORCES
Where a complete gravitional effect is required the mathematics is non-linear and quadratic where mass-mass interactions at a solar system level are considered. These masses are long-range dipole-dipole interactions. Here the algebraic process of linearlization involves a 'square root' of the GSFT tensor which is diagonal in structure. Hence the solution of this diagonal tensor is easily determined from linear algebra. centres of energy,stars, are 'white' holes, or centres of 'positive' energy

GALACTIC FORCES

Where the gravitational effect is at the galactic level, the mathematics is again non-linear. But in this case the interactions involve 'three-way' effects between all nuclear matter, quarks, where the fields are the photonic compounds known as gluons. Such 'three-way' interactions are governed by SNSFT. In this case, these nuclear-nuclear forces are long-range 'tripole-tripole' interactions. At this level, the galaxy is balancing all the nuclear matter within it, namely the stars, planets, and all other nuclei within it. One major difference between the nuclear and galactic mathematics is the number of interacting elements. In atomic-nuclear interactions there may be as little as three quarks that interact, whereas there is a very large number of interacting elements wihtin a star or in a galaxy. Hence atomic-nuclei demonstrate the well-known 'quantum' physics, which can also be seen within galactic structures where the number of elements involved must be small, or small perhaps in that only few star-clusters exist within the structure. If inter nuclear forces do exist, then it is probable that the gluon 'strings' that connect the nuclear matter over large distances are converted into lower order photonic matter within the intervening millieu. centres of energy here, black holes, are centres of negative energy

SUPERCLUSTER FORCES

At the supercluster level, the mathematics is once again non-linear but this time quartic. Like all the other gravitational structures, the centre-of-motion fields can transform the mathematics into a linear form for numerically solving these gravitational applications. At this level of interaction we are beyond the type of matter currently known to mainstream science. Above the quarks and their gluon fields, we now find that the 'four-way particles' are probably found within the centres of energy within the supercluster, namely the black holes at the centre of each galaxy within the cluster. The fields are also four-way subphotonic structures only found at extremely high energy densities. The super-cluster balances all 'four-way' matter within it, which must be centres of positive energy.

UNIVERSAL FORCES

Finally at the universal level, the form is non-linear and quintic. Now there a five interacting elements in both the fields and their particles. So there must be an enormous 'black hole'of negative energy near the centre of the universe

Three of these four domains are clearly observable using optical, radio, microwave, and X-ray telescopes. What exists beyond these four is unknown to current mainstream scientific methods. Whether SFT offers any view outside our universe is not currently known.

[tony_fleming]

Tony - I'll let you decide. Here are some links for you to check.

http://www.rbduncan.com/pge1.html

http://www.rbduncan.com/TOEbyFitzpatrick.htm

web page



Cheers

Fitz

fitz, i've looked at the sites quickly; i'll read them more carefully over the next few days. but they do appear to say something like self-field theory's take on the same topic; electromagnetic pressure-since the field particles eventually reach their target particle, they either hook around and collide with the back of the particle, or they collide front-on; this depends on their 'polarity' i.e on their spin orientation!! so this is a form of pressure- ithink there must be a relation bewteen the electromagnetic tensor and the mechanical stress tensor; obviously this is where EM attraction or repulsion must come from

[tony_fleming]

what the gravitation self-field theory also tells us (at the solar system to take one of the four Gravitational forces) is that there are two streams of photons running both ways between any two masses, but they run in orthogonal planes to each other. in the case of the Sun and the planets this means we should find one stream on the plane of the sun and earth, and another orthogonal to this. observing both the sun and the earth we see a field running north-south through both. what GSFT says then is that these two polar running magnetic fields will met up by bending over in the plane orthogonal to the ecliptic plane.

so if there were no other masses outside of the solar system there would only be the finite number of photon streams running between the sun and the planets and a whole pot of little streams for all the smaller masses like the asteroids, and the particles of the kuiper belt.

when we get to galaxies, the streams are running between 'three-way' nuclear masses mainly all the conglomerations of negative nuclear energy in the galaxy and the central 'black hole', a negative analogy of the sun at the galactic level.

so there will be streams of gluons/photons leaving and entering at the top of a galactic black hole which separates out and joins all the negative enrgy conglomerates in the galaxy.

etc, etc for super clusters and at the universal level;

then maybe we begin on the next cycle of gravitational forces???