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michellemfry · 02:02 PM

Does anyone know about the vision of nocturnal animals? Do they depend on the lack of light to see? We are not the only means of vision that exists. To these animals the darkness may be bright. I don't know if I'm saying this right. I like to try to put myself into the position of other life forms and suppose what it like is for this thing to sense its environment. How is it to fly like a bat and see with sonar? Does light and dark matter to a bat?

When I get my eyes dilated at Lens Crafters, the sun hurts so bad one cannot drive. And night vision is not something we are all good at. Are there any particles that are more responsive to dark than light? We use light to detect particles, why don't we use dark? We are so used to the sun that we have forgotten that other means of vision exist. I've forgotten the question I wanted to ask. Just comment if you like, or if you don't like, I'm not trying to make any point here.

mkirkpatrick · 02:44 PM

The code is a sequence which tells the story of thought taking form and BE-coming-Form-al-lised, the idea taking form, and encoding itself, awaiting for the
informed entity to BE-come, self-conscious, and then be able to read about its
long, long journey to reach this point, when this is finally understood, then the
real understanding of what life really is, will be revealed, at the moment it is
to us a dark flame that burns dimly.

Kind regards, Michael.

Guille · 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by michellemfry

Does anyone know about the vision of nocturnal animals? Do they depend on the lack of light to see? We are not the only means of vision that exists. To these animals the darkness may be bright. I don't know if I'm saying this right. I like to try to put myself into the position of other life forms and suppose what it like is for this thing to sense its environment. How is it to fly like a bat and see with sonar? Does light and dark matter to a bat?

When I get my eyes dilated at Lens Crafters, the sun hurts so bad one cannot drive. And night vision is not something we are all good at. Are there any particles that are more responsive to dark than light? We use light to detect particles, why don't we use dark? We are so used to the sun that we have forgotten that other means of vision exist. I've forgotten the question I wanted to ask. Just comment if you like, or if you don't like, I'm not trying to make any point here.

We base on light because darkness is not a-thing, it's no thing. Actually the colour white, which is normally seen as no thing, is all the colours, and black is the lack of colour (in terms of light). No animal can base its sight on darkness. What happens with nocturnal animals is that they 'shoot' out more light than us or other animals; therefore they see darker things brighter due to their own light produced. However, the question is similar to that of whether the glass in front of me is half full or half empty.

Marko · 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by michellemfry

Does anyone know about the vision of nocturnal animals? Do they depend on the lack of light to see? We are not the only means of vision that exists. To these animals the darkness may be bright. I don't know if I'm saying this right. I like to try to put myself into the position of other life forms and suppose what it like is for this thing to sense its environment. How is it to fly like a bat and see with sonar? Does light and dark matter to a bat?

When I get my eyes dilated at Lens Crafters, the sun hurts so bad one cannot drive. And night vision is not something we are all good at. Are there any particles that are more responsive to dark than light? We use light to detect particles, why don't we use dark? We are so used to the sun that we have forgotten that other means of vision exist. I've forgotten the question I wanted to ask. Just comment if you like, or if you don't like, I'm not trying to make any point here.

I think exactly the same as it is for a computer or radar or submarine sonar to fell the brightness or darkness, or like it is for the airplane to fly. We can’t go with the any kind of human perspective to understand how animals or plants react. Best way to think of them is like a „computer program“ with its programmed actions and reactions to the environment. They are just programmed like that, by complete randomness.

Regards!

AntonioLao · Quote #85 (**permalink**) 01-31-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marko

combinations probably can appear, but they are "short lived".

In elementary particles physics they are called the heavy weak bosons or WIMPS.

AntonioLao · 03:06 PM

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What do you think about the "multi-evolution theory" in general?

Only the neo-Prigoginians could possibly answer this question. I am now trying to decipher its secrets.

AntonioLao · Quote #87 (**permalink**) 01-31-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by baudrunner

Who is SETI kidding anyway? What a stupid idea.

SETI could be a 'welcome' alien program, that our doors are open, please come in type of things. But an intruder or night burglar wont need any welcome sign. They forced their entry. Maybe they are in already?

baudrunner · 08:29 PM

Neo-prigoginians, now that's a good one!

Okay, Michelle, I see your point. Yes, we can read the dark with sophisticated equipment and pretty cool technology. But compare a space probe's transmitter's power source to a star, a sun, and that the entire world can easily look very small when compared to the size of a single prominance, or flare, from that sun.

Would we really be able to separate its data from the mess that a sun produces?

Also, how would we transmit and receive information from hundreds or thousands of light years away if we needed to? Say we were a million years ahead of our current state of evolution.

There are places out there which produce x-ray transmissions at regular intervals and other places out there where novae recur. These phenomena puzzle scientists so much that they create all kinds of new theories as to why they happen, but they have not yet considered the possibility that a natural or unnatural phenomenon may be providing the energy required to send intelligent information over vast distances. The idea isn't so crazy, compared to trying to detect intelligent interstellar signals the way SETI is doing it. It is even more practical.

one odd example:

http://www.oarval.org/EtaCarTwin.htm

an example of a recurrent novae:

http://home.mindspring.com/~mikesimonsen/cvnet/id1.html

and here:

http://www.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/www_astro/gal/cv_beginners.html

Rho Cassiopeiae, a super massive star that phases through a strange 50-year cycle:

http://www.brightsurf.com/news/feb_03/INGT_news_020303.html

The list goes on. Events such as those described in the above links, and there are many more, are what we should really be studying more closely in order to determine if intelligent information is being modulated on the emissions by intelligent races using their cyclic and predictable energy cycles. These are the kinds of energies required to communicate over vast distances between locations tens of thousands of light years apart.