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    Could entanglement be part of life too?


    How many time have we heard stories about twins?
    Incredible moments where one has a problem and make feel the other twin brother or sister the same way... When one twin was involved in an accident and the other one actually FELT the pain in the same side...
    I've had the opportunity to talk to people about such "fantastic" coincidences and they would assure me that there was nothing ficticious about the whole thing: It has happened and it was REAL!

    How many times have tyou heard that if one twin dies the other will follow soon?

    Well the phenomenon is not entirely alien to physics... I decided to call it "biological entanglement." There is a chapter in my book about entanglement and I wrote a paragraph depicting this weird event of nature.
    We all know what a DNA is. However how could any one might explain that RNA [messenger] were produced following instruction from DNA that is unzipping as the reading goes on? We know that the spliting process is needed to acurately copy the DNA's blue prints into the messenger RNA. Couldn't this process be a "molecular entanglement"? It would be a FTL system of signal transport from one place of the cell to the other and at the same time a reliable one?

    Let me know your views on the subject if you have one...

    My regards to this field of reality

    HUMANBYDEFAULT

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    Cool interesting...

    HBD,
    I think this is more than simply biological. I think there is an emotional (or even spiritual) aspect. There was recently a case here in British Columbia where the wife of an elderly couple was moved from the medical care unit she was staying at with her husband ("because it wasn't a long term care facility") to a place that was quite a distance away. She died shortly after being moved. Her husband followed her to the grave after about a week. I think there is a bonding that happens to us that is similar to non-locality in quantum theory, that allows for instant communication and perhaps instant sympathetic response.
    The first is only interesting if it is the beginning of something. The first is not interesting if it is the only - Djanet Sears

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    Lightbulb Re: Could entanglement be part of life too?

    Would you dare trying to convince me that a days-old baby could feel so happy about the recent heart operation of his twim brother that as a result of that joy he himself got better.... There was no medical need for a heart transplant! Could that be filed as another emotional response or perhaps "spiritual" behavior?

    COME ON!

    The reason twins are attached both spiritualy and PHYSICALLY is due to what I decided to named "BIOLOGICAL ENTANGLEMENT." I dedicated a paragraph in my book to touch this subject too. I'm convinced [with no proofs of course] that ONE DAY scientists (biologists) will find the way to demonstrate that our D.N.A. works based on the principle of "nuclear entanglement" at cellular levels.
    What does it mean?
    Simple! Assume that you could consider the interaction of molecules and therefore cells as "inter-connected universes" on their own scale. The longer the molecule, the greater the relationship [factor] space-time and energy-mass as well. If a molecule is shorter then the entire equation would be reduced to a smaller "universal constants" as space-time and energy-mass too. We "tend" to analize all systems, from an individual cell to a whole planet as taking part of a "fixed space-time universe." That's why we confront the phenomenon called "entanglement" and we speak about it a lot but without actually understanding what that means.
    Entanglement is precesely the effect-change-transformation during the interaction of different "interconected universes" or physical systems no matter the scale in which they are present [cosmological scale, universal scale or even nuclear scale,etc].
    I see how space-time and energy-matter are following a set of rules that are valid [useful] only at the scale where they constitute a reality. If two molecules are different [let's say a protein or enzyme and an acid or base] the interaction between them will be responsible for the occurrence of a new "entanglement" process while and during the bond (chemical or quantum mechanical as you which...].
    TIME? How could time change according to the length of the molecular structure of a biological compound for example?
    If you assume that TIME is refer to the actual SPIN RATE or ROTATIONAL FACTOR of the molecule itself you would be able to discover that for two identical molecules both space and time must be identical. In proteins we have learned that an aminoacid could and in fact has two spin directionalities making them "L" or "D" [left or right rotation].
    But what all this has to do with two twin babies?
    OH! It has alot to do with it! As two opposite spinning identical proteins, these two babies are "attached" by "things" that we do not undersand today yet but we will in the future for sure: "space-time" and "energy-mass" configurations are similar and physically influential in one another. It doesn't have anything to do with their weight or color of their eyes... Their "biological entanglement" was conceived with their birth and will last until both die.

    Think about it, you'll find easier to contradict me in a hundred ways and imposse you opinion as a fight against superstition and black magic... As always: your comments are very valuable to me and they are welcome no matter what.

    HUMANBYDEFAULT

    I think that I had to resucitate this posting from the dirty memory of this computer since some ideas tend to get forgotten in the past.

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    Re: Could entanglement be part of life too?

    "Their "biological entanglement" was conceived with their birth and will last until both die."

    Why only until they die? If scale is irrelevant, both should be forever entangled, no? Or are you referring only to human molecular systems?

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    Re: Could entanglement be part of life too?

    Entanglement and Resonance, are they not the same?

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    Talking Re: Could entanglement be part of life too?

    Interesting responses...

    I was referring to our material existence which in fact is what many here are interesting to know better... but why not? If entanglement occurred at the moment of conception [genesis of life] why shouldn't such "common-link" last even in the so-called after-life too?

    Now. I don't see that phenomenon as a sort of magnetic or electric resonancy [or even sonic,etc] I would compare it to what physicists see as spin-up and spin-down of an orbit assumed to contain two (2) electrons... got It?

    You could not under any condition change one without affecting the status of the second. Of course don't loose the focus here>>> We are talking about a much less speedy or visibly fast SCALE of things. Planets don't move as fast as wavi-particles right? However both moves accordingly to their "counterparts."

    HUMANBYDEFAULT

    **** Thanks for your comments.
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    Talking Re: Could entanglement be part of life too?

    Those who have read a little bit about the way DNA works, they would find incredibly smart the way a cell will reproduce itself using a sort of copy-system that originate inside the nucleus [where the actual blueprints of the DNA is stored] and transcripted throught what they called messenger DNA. Later those msg DNA(s) are been transcripted into the actual manufacturing of "pieces" obtain from the cell's composition of the cytoplasm. The question here is: How could a split chain moving in two different directions and passing throught a certain "reader" could make such copy without almost no error?
    The cell is pretty small we all know that, but the distances inside that process in their own scale is considerably great to transmit the message. The only mechanism I could think about is "space-time entanglement." The longer the molecule to be copied the different the space-time constant of the "system" will be and therefore a final result would be identifiably different.
    You see? The particularities of the EATHER we know as the cosmos has no direct impact in these type of processes BECAUSE it occurs inside a different "micro-eather" made by a completely different density of the medium.
    A molecule represent as we know a proportionality between energy-mass as does every physical entity. How this energy-mass equation reacts in the presence of a changing space-time medium [specific eather] it's what determine the final outcome of the reaction or chemical [biologic] process.

    Non of today's theories account for this views of mine... That's for sure. If you analized the math of quantum mechanics it is either irrelevant or non-existent!! Time is used to compute processes and measurements using the SAME SPACE-TIME particularities conceived in the cosmos around the planet. There are no difference in the characterization of different MEDIUMS [eather] when it comes to physical processes at different scales... both in the macro and/or the micro world.

    Thank you for your attention specially for those who spendpart of their time reading my thoughts.

    HUMANBYDEFAULT

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    Re: Could entanglement be part of life too?

    I think your space-time entanglement is based on what relative reference frames are based on. For instance, if you stretch out a steel bar acroos the country, and then twist one end of the bar, the other end will twist as well instantaneously because the reference frame is identical.

    Yet, the infinite number of infinitesimal component particles are part of different reference frames, each two + and - particles creating other "bars," where information would require propagation over time in order to be affected. So I think any concept of distance/separation, even universally, is a matter of interactions between long - or very long - bars with + on one end and - on the other.


 

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