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    What is "Life" vs What is "A" Life???

    "What is life???" ... How many of You "actually" know... the answer to this question???

    Time for some "rational" problem solving I think... that reminds me... I saw a thread a few screens ago... um ... "the problem with problems"... which brings me to ask the question again.... "what is the problem with the question of.... 'what is life'???"

    In order to gain some perspective... through logical reasoning.... how about we break the question down...

    "what is life???" ... then becomes:- "what" .. (is) .. "life" .. nb: Ive taken the... (is) .. and extracted it ... thats because to ask this question of "is" ... would be to bring the "what" into the present moment.... the "what" being "life"... and life IS ... now ...!!!!!!!!!

    The word "what" ... may be defined as ... "one" ... "one of several" or "one of many" ... either way... it still begins with "one"... and ... how many of this "one" ... is dependant upon the "what" ....... which in this case is ... "life" ... which as you see below ... is many ...

    The word "life" ... may be defined as ... "The property (physics) ... or quality (chemistry) ... that distinguishes living organisms (biology) ... from dead organisms (organic/biology)... and inanimate matter (energy/physics) ... manifested in functions (dna) such as metabolism ... growth ... reproduction (nature) ... and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment (nurture) ... originating from within the organism .... LIFE!

    Guess that means its "collective" .... ??? What do you think???

    I've been reading the replies to this thread and decided ... for those of you ... whom have posted replies ... including myself ... well we were "All" - "Correct" ... in what we think ... and that life seems to be a collection of many ... which brings me to ask again ... "what is a life exactly???" ... and the answer is therefore " ... "simple" ...

    "A" life is initially ... determination ... of the properties defined in the chemical structure ... a bit like the properties we search for in the search for TOE ... each article has its own distinguishing features ... some are alive for only one function ... some are alive for many functions ... some split through growth and reproduction ... and all of this is dependant upon "external stimuli" ... and creation of the many ....

    Guess the answer to the question of exactly what a life is ... can and will be answered by many for all the years to come and more ....... all in the end maybe ... answering the questions to "WHAT IS LIFE???" ... be prepared though as the answers will be a bit more complex eh than the question actually asked!!!

    The problem with problems is .... one question ... may be answered ... by many ... and challenged ... by many .... until such time a general concensus is formed (Unity)

    (that of course depends on how many times the question is asked ... and those who listen for the answer)
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    Smile turn life inside out andyou find the ONE?

    To me all is life and all is alive,to think otherwise for me would be absurd.
    There is a difference in degree of course!I express more lifefulness,more expanded consciousness than a stone?Although there are some who would
    question that statement!You know who you are?A stone is in a state of
    profound lethagy!I just have the lethagy,but it is not that profound!Life in
    a very simplfied way,is basically,about making the inner reality the outer??
    When you turn life inside out,you find the one life!As you were to explore
    deeper into your life,as your consciousness expanded,and you became more
    sensitive to higher harmonies,you would begin to see wisps and swirls,and
    lines,linking you to your environment,you would begin to think,where do "I"
    begin and where do "I" end?You would SEE yourself as being,andas such you
    would re-cog-nise that,you had no beginning and no ending,you would in
    effect become the everywhere man,quantum non locality,in person?

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    Intelligent Bacteria????

    Bacteria are by far the simplest things alive, at least among things generally agreed on as being alive. Next to one of these single-celled beings, one cell of our bodies looks about as complex as a human does compared to a sponge.
    A colony of Paenibacillus dendritiformis bacteria, which some researchers say can organize themselves into different types of extravagant formations to maximize food intake for given conditions. According to some, this reflects a bacterial intelligence. (Courtesy Eshel Ben-Jacob, Tel Aviv University, Israel)
    Yet the humble microbes may have a rudimentary form of intelligence, some researchers have found.
    The claims seem to come as a final exclamation point to a long series of increasingly surprising findings of sophistication among the microbes, including apparent cases of cooperation and even altruism.
    But there is no clear measurement or test that scientists can use, based on the behavior alone, to determine whether it reflects intelligence.
    Some researchers, though, have found a systematic way of addressing the question and begun looking into it. This method involves focusing not so much on the behavior itself as the nuts and bolts behind it—a complex system of chemical “signals” that flit both within and among bacteria, helping them decide what to do and where to go.
    Researchers have found that this process has similarities to a type of human-made machine designed to act as a sort of simplified brain. These devices solve some simple problems in a manner more human-like than machine-like.
    The devices, called neural networks, also run on networks of signals akin to those of the bacteria. The devices use the networks to “learn” tasks such as distinguishing a male from a female in photographs—typical sorts of problems that are easy for humans but hard for traditional computers.
    The similarities in the bacterial and neural network signaling systems are far more than superficial, wrote one researcher, Klaas J. Hellingwerf, in the April issue of the journal Trends in Microbiology. He found that the bacterial system contains all the important features that make neural networks work, leading to the idea that the bacteria have “a minimal form of intelligence.”
    Bacterial signaling possesses all four of the key properties that neural network experts have identified as essential to make such devices work, Hellingwerf elaborated. The only weak link in the argument, he added, is that for one of those properties, it’s not clear whether bacteria exhibit it to a significant extent. This may be where future research should focus, he wrote.
    Cooperation and altruism
    The comparison of bacterial signaling with neural networks is not the only evidence that has nudged researchers closer to the concept that bacteria might possess a crude intelligence—though few scientists would go as far as to use that word.
    One of the other lines of evidence is a simple examination of bacterial behavior.
    This behavior is strikingly versatile, researchers have found in recent years; bacteria can cope with a remarkably wide range of situations by taking appropriate actions for each. For instance, the deadly Pseudomonas aeruginosa can make a living by infecting a wide variety of animal and plant tissues, each of which is a very different type of environment in which to live and find sustenance.
    Furthermore, bacteria cooperate: they can group together to take on tasks that would be difficult or impossible for one to handle alone. In a textbook example, millions of individuals of the species Myxococcus xanthus can bunch up to form a “predatory” colony that moves and changes direction collectively toward possible food sources.
    Some examples of bacterial cooperation have even led researchers to propose that bacteria exhibit a form of altruism. For instance, some strains of Escherichia coli commit suicide when infected by a virus, thereby protecting their bacterial neighbors from infection.
    But until recently, few or no scientists had seriously suggested these behaviors reflected intelligence.
    For instance, bacterial “altruism” may be a simple outcome of evolution that has nothing to do with concern for the welfare of others, wrote the University of Bonn’s Jan-Ulrich Kreft in last August’s issue of the research journal Current Biology. Thus he didn’t suggest that any process akin to thinking was at work.
    But one commonality among all these behaviors is that they all operate as a result of signaling mechanisms like the ones studied by Hellingwerf.

    Courtesy of www.mindpowernews.com
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    Smile Re: What is "Life" vs What is "A" Life???

    Simply in a nutshell life is the natural and "only" state of all there is was and ever will be,
    and "a" life is a reflection upon that universal fact!



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    Post Re: What is "Life" vs What is "A" Life???

    Ashley return to this thread at once??Life is the expression of that which Is,showing in
    its reflection a being of great beauty?


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    Re: What is "Life" vs What is "A" Life???

    Re: What is "Life"

    Life is the "Self" It is variously described as "Undifferentiated Consciousness," "Eternal Knowledge" or "Pure Awareness," and is characterized by the Light of the Great Void.

    It is the supreme principle whose essential nature is self-effulgence. It is infinite, transcendental and the essence of absolute knowledge.

    It has three attributes of Sat, Chit and Anand, i.e., pure existence, pure knowledge and pure bliss. As the Self (i.e.pure life) is complete in Itself, and by Itself, It has no activity of Its own, nor has any need for it, nor requires any outside agency. All-pervading and self-existent, It knows no limits and no motives.

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    Re: What is "Life" vs What is "A" Life???

    brother IC;truly said.ls.

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    Re: What is "Life" vs What is "A" Life???

    Life is what you make it.

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    Smile Re: What is "Life" vs What is "A" Life???

    Quote Originally Posted by MJA View Post
    Life is what you make it.



    MJA
    That is true MJA,it is also equally true that some also "fake it,to make it"?




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    Re: What is "Life" vs What is "A" Life???

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    Ashley return to this thread at once??Life is the expression of that which Is,showing in
    its reflection a being of great beauty?


    regards michael.
    Hey Michael.. Ashley is now present and accounted for..

    Lmao Your actually quite lucky.. musta been prepared for my return eh.. haha I dont usualyy return for just anyone ya know.. but hey this time I am returning for life.. lol

    Ima catch up on the first post in this thread and replies.. and then I will answer accordingly..

    Answer what Im unsure.. however. I'll give nothing a go.. seeing as we are all about everything in the scheme we call life..

    By the way.. The question asked at the beginning of this thread.. is simply put.. a compounded question.. and has another part to follow..

    Determining What Life Is Creating
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