Life - something from nothing?

[SinJin]

Here's my question- where does life come from? Not in the general sense, but specifically, how does life seemingly grow from nothing? For instance, if you look at a seed, it is much smaller compared to, say, the oak tree it will grow into. So where does the extra matter come from that builds the tiny seed into a giant tree? Same thing with animals. A human embryo is pretty small, and it seems like it magically grows into an adult human. Does the input of food and water equal the amount of growth? Does the body convert energy into matter? Does my question make any sense? Any thoughts and/or answers?

[mkirkpatrick]

Sinjin,what an excellent thread starter,thank you very much!Where does life come from?
That is a good question,life is all there "really" is!The entire universe is fully alive,so life
emerges from life,as in the evolutionary process,the only "real" difference between you
and say a stone,is that you exhibit more of the life force,than the stone!The stone can best be discribed as being in a state of "profound lethagy"?

It was interesting you mentioned the seed,like an acorn,that has locked within it the
potential for an oak tree,millions of times greater in size,with the assistance of water
earth,air, and of course sunlight,the inner potential is realised,the "blueprint" for the
tree is encoded within the acorn,the addition of the afore mentioned,unlocks this
sequence and the unfolding process begins.Unfolding is the operative word here as
all life "unfolds" due to the pressure of the evolutionary cycle.

regards michael.

[Mr. Nobody]

The DNA regulates your growth in accordance with what evolutionary path your ancestors took.
We store and use energy from light (sun) and/or nutrients (matter) and convert it into growth, heat, fat (energy storage for mobile live forms) and muscle contraction (motion for mobile live forms)
The something is an emergence born out of millions (and billion if we expand it to include stars) of years of evolution to harness order within increasing disorder. Matter sprung conciousness in response to that process and it recognized the value of flexibilty and anticipation of repitive patterns within an ever changing environment.
We don't really live in a universe of nothing since even the depths of empty space are filled with the energy undulations of fluctuating EMR fields.

Gravity, the force that appears to oppose entropy locally but still increases entropy on a large scale is an oddity in the universe and why there is live

[mkirkpatrick]

You get something from something,and nothing from no-thing.
life is expressed within unfolding principles,these principles had to be there (put in)
before they could be unfolded and evolve as it does through the evolutionary cycle.

this process is called "involution" the "future" life evolving principle is first "wrapped up"
during the involutionary cycle,then,"unwrapped" unfolded,opened up,during the next
phase of the cycle,which is evolution.

So in truth we can only get some-thing-from some-thing,and absolutely nothing from
no-thing!


regards michael.

[SinJin]

I guess I'm still wondering where the actual physical matter comes from that life seems to acumulate as it grows. With the seed example, where are the trillions of atoms coming from that make up the tree the seed grows into?

[mkirkpatrick]

I guess I'm still wondering where the actual physical matter comes from that life seems to acumulate as it grows. With the seed example, where are the trillions of atoms coming from that make up the tree the seed grows into?

They are coming from within the seed,the elements such as earth,air.fire,and water,are
the "tappers on the door"that signal the affirmitive for expansion from within.
The atoms are locked within as potential,until realised by "the tappers on the door"?


regards michael.

[dipayankar]

Life does not violate the conservation of energy or matter theory. Every time we are pulling in matter or energy from this universe. We are storing some and releasing the rest. This stored matter is converted into internal cells that help us grow into the size that is 1000 times from what we originate as.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

I guess I'm still wondering where the actual physical matter comes from that life seems to acumulate as it grows. With the seed example, where are the trillions of atoms coming from that make up the tree the seed grows into?

The primal singularity quantimized classical infinite space/motion/matter___long ago...

regards,

[mkirkpatrick]

The primal singularity quantimized classical infinite space/motion/matter___long ago...

regards,

Sorry dear friend but you are abysmally incorrect here,hope you forgive the
impertinents.

your friend michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

How would a non-mind know such esoteric logic?

regards,

Sorry dear friend but you are abysmally incorrect here,hope you forgive the
impertinents.

your friend michael.