what is life????????

[Tina]

........The final result is that there is a necrosis in the whole body, in a chain reaction way.

.......The question is with which way we would stimulate all the reactions simultaneously.This means that the source of this energy, would give the appropriate energy to the whole volume of the dead cell, with the right timing.One idea is the use of an appropriate form of electromagnetic waves.

The immediate problem is to replace/restore/replicate the cardiovascular system because once the blood supply stops circulating that is when necrosis sets in. Also it would have to be performend very quickly as the brain can suffer substantial damage during the first few minutes of necrosis.

But the key is in replicating the Electromagneticism of the Heart action that was evident before the Cardiac arrest. The heart is a known electromagnetic pump so when it stops this is what causes cell death through lack of oxegenated blood supply. But there is more going on in blood circulation than we realise...and we have to detect the process of electromagnetism in the whole cardivascular system not just in the Heart pump action. Life is not just chemical reactions - they are Electro-chemical reactions.

[austintorn@aol.com]

The ends (tips) of DNA, filled with junk DNA, get worn and torn and lessened when cells and their DNA divide and replicate about 50 times during life, and so, like that thing at the end of a shoelace, DNA tips get worn away eventually and then the good DNA gets affected during the raveling/unraveling and so we begin to die.

So, here's to better and longer ends of shoelaces. May you all live forever and me too.

What would living forever cause in any reverberations of life's philosophy and evolution and God and all? (Please don't get run over by a truck while pondering this, for even eternal DNA can't prevent that)

[Tina]

The ends (tips) of DNA, filled with junk DNA, get worn and torn and lessened when cells and their DNA divide and replicate about 50 times during life, and so, like that thing at the end of a shoelace, DNA tips get worn away eventually and then the good DNA gets affected during the raveling/unraveling and so we begin to die.

So, here's to better and longer ends of shoelaces. May you all live forever and me too.

Yes Austin organic systems are designed to eventually ware out. Death is very much an essential part of the Life process. But Medical Science seeks to prevent premature death.....like when you pull too hard on your shoelace and it snaps apart....they can fix it.

[austintorn@aol.com]

But for death choosing the wise from the silly, we wouldn't be here or have advanced to be but wiser, except for budwieser pulling some back (but some of us silly guys like me apparently slipped through the process).

[Tina]

(but some of us silly guys like me apparently slipped through the process).

Who is to say that you don't contain some DNA of a wise relative in your past....and they live on in you.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Guess the wise knew when to be silly, plus the worth of all types of communication.

Does early death, indeed, through evolution, choose our direction, sifting the pointed form the pointless? Or once did, but does no more?

[minaras]

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Of course, when we are talking about chains of chemical reactions, we do not mean it in the simplistic way, that they are in a chain, and everything is happening in an order, where the formed substance goes to the next position to react with the next substrate etc. Things in nature are much more random, and it is difficult sometimes for us to detect which is the next step.One of the major difficulties are some passive phenomena that happen, such as plasma flow, passive diffusion through membranes because of difference in concentration, or electrical gradients, excretion throught ducts, etc.The latter are phenomena that happen passively ,due to the laws of nature and are not defining life, the way the chemical reactions do. To be more symbolical, they play the role that scientists play in a chemical lab:they transfer the substances from one tube to another, arrarge the conditions, etc.But the chemical reactions are the big difference.

Of course , if these movements that we are talking about were not there, we would not be the way we are.We are the results of all these , and so it is normal to think that if something was not the way it is, WE would not be there, the way we are!So we think that they are essential for us and everything was arranged perfectly, and if something was a bit different ,we would not be there, but as i told everything depends on who is the observer.We are a changing complex, and everything that happens lead to us.We see things from the opposite side though.It is like we are in a moving ship, and so we realize things differentl from someone who is standing in the port.Most of all we dont have a good sence of our own movement.If we were not in the living system, we would not find any reasoning for all the creatures on earth.Even if we were tables for example, we would think that the most perfect creatures are the tables.All depends on what is the observer.