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    Pull cull full dull mull null lull hull bull gull

    Do cow hide? Do hens have lips? Removing centuries of misinformation and misconception is a task done layer by layer one at a time, step by step. What would come as a surprise is that uncovering the final layer of an onion would contain perfect emptiness. However, uncovering tomato or other kinds of fruits and vegetables would always find the seeds in the center and if planted in rich fertile organic soils would produce better offspring for the continuation of improved future generations.

    The act of pulling and culling by natural selection lies in the hands of a conscientious farmer who is more interested in the quality than the quantity of his products, more in value than in profit, more in its uniqueness than its duplication or copy. In the hands of great masters like Leonardo da Vinci and Beethoven, they could not forge their own masterpieces or compositions. No human doublet, triplet, or quadruplet can be exactly alike, not in its values of space and time. The space-time differences of modern genetic cloning can be found at the level of elementary particles.

    All electrons at relative subluminal speed with each other would always give the same average expected value of one statistical mass. However, the statistical mass of all photons is zero. These differences respectively distinguish both electrons and photons into fermions and bosons. However, pair productions at high energy physics show that head-on collisions between electron and its antiparticle, the positron, create two photons, while the high frequencies interactions of photons create a pair of electron and positron since photons are antiparticles of themselves. The resolution of tiny mass to zero mass vice versa was accomplished by the accurate and precise theory of the standard model of elementary particles and the surprise discovery of spontaneous symmetry breaking and the existence of massive vector gauge bosons.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²

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    Re: Pull cull full dull mull null lull hull bull gull

    Antonio, The mass of the photon is equal to its kinetic energy, therefore subtracting the photon's kinetic energy (converted to mass) from the photon's mass yields zero. You could say that γ[hv - ½mv² = 0]. Don't laugh. I know that also means that γ[hv - ½(hv)v² = 0], but that's what we're supposed to believe (γ is the standard symbol for the photon, as is hv, and I am assuming that v=c). I haven't found an expression for the mass of a photon other than the standard symbol hv but I guess that the photon's mass is already a function of velocity and its velocity is light speed so that by the rules of relativity, its mass is already infinite. How would you reconcile this, Antonio?

    To my mind, photons originate in the photon field (I don't think that the Higgs field exists) as packets of energy, which we observe in this physical realm as mediating EM wave propagation. These quanta are emitted then as quickly reabsorbed back into the photon field. This principle lies at the root of photon entanglement. It is possible to effect the field instantaneously over great distances. All that is needed are the tools we create to do the job of detecting this behavior.

    Positrons are the electron's anti-electron, Antonio. The Anti-positron is the electron. Occasionally, electron-positron pairs are generated spontaneously out of the photon field.
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    Re: Pull cull full dull mull null lull hull bull gull

    Granted, those equations belong to the realm of standard physics and the behavior we're analyzing falls into the realm of quantum mechanics.

    Insomuch that in conventional mathematics we have logarithmic scales, those same scales deal with events that originate at that very small atomic and molecular scale. They actually prove the complexity of quantum events. I can accept that when we talk about the fundamental particles we require a different frame of reference. It makes me wonder at the feasibility of expressing those events and their effects using our standard processes, but unfortunately we know no other. That's why I shy away from math.

    For example, an object can have much greater kinetic energy when that energy is translated into mass than the potential energy of the mass at rest. That suggests that every object has infinite potential energy. A micro-meteor the size of a grain of sand can destroy a satellite, but when that micro-meteor is at rest, static electricity is enough to overcome the force of gravity and its mass. One way to reconcile that is to assume other than what Einstein and the numbers taught us, that mass is not a form of energy.

    That train of thought is almost enough to overcome denial of the Higgs field.
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    Re: Pull cull full dull mull null lull hull bull gull

    I still can't understand why there are now so many fields for physics in particular and science in general? Since Faraday there was only the field of force (EM). Now we have the fermion field, the boson field, the meson field, the weak field, the strong field, the quark field, the gluon field, the Higgs field, the gravitarional field, as well as the true vacuum field and the false vacuum field.
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    Re: Pull cull full dull mull null lull hull bull gull

    Not to mention continuous random fields. Someday all those fields will be united into a single all-encompassing theory of everything. It's not inconceivable to me that the photon field is the source of all the energies from which the quarks and leptons are made. As for the neutrinos, maybe they slip through between the lines that comprise the grain of the photon background, uhh..from some kind of neutrino field behind the photon field? They have been compared to fleas, as I recall from my reading. Their eggs are between the slats of the hardwood floor that is the photon field.
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    Re: Pull cull full dull mull null lull hull bull gull

    Quote Originally Posted by baudrunner
    Someday all those fields will be united into a single all-encompassing theory of everything
    Is that the year 2018? I'll be 69 years old.
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    Re: Pull cull full dull mull null lull hull bull gull

    Is that the year 2018? I'll be 69 years old.
    Then we might well live to see electricity replaced by photonicity! I'll be 65.
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    Re: Pull cull full dull mull null lull hull bull gull

    Also cell phones replaced by mental telepathy - sound waves replaced by brain waves.
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    Re: Pull cull full dull mull null lull hull bull gull

    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao View Post
    Also cell phones replaced by mental telepathy - sound waves replaced by brain waves.
    Do you suppose that we are ambulatory biological communication devices that are but slightly off-frequency, and that once attenuated, we might tap into the fundamental substance?
    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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    Re: Pull cull full dull mull null lull hull bull gull

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench
    we are ambulatory biological communication devices
    I agree, but the more important question is how can we implement this individual mental ability? However, in music, if frequencies are slightly offed then we produce music beats or rhythms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_(music)
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