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    Re: Inherent Viral Purpose

    A quote from The Scientific Outlook....Bertrand Russell, 1931


    "Science has given us, in succession, power over inanimate nature, power over plants and animals, and finally power over human beings. Each power involves its own kinds of dangers, and perhaps the dangers involved in power over human beings are the greatest, but that is a matter that we will consider at a later stage." - 183




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    Hi All....check this out!!!!!!

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    Re: Inherent Viral Purpose

    As usual, Labelwench throws horses into any equation, LOL.

    The equine show industry has many regulations around participating. Horses must be negative for Equine Infectious Anemia, (Horse variant of aids) for which there is no vaccine or cure. Life long quarantine or euthanasia are the only options.

    Besides the usual means of transfer by bodily fluid, sharing of needles in routine health care etc., mosquitoes and biting insects can act as vectors.

    Some animals will succumb to the disorder, some will have occasional bouts of illness and some can be inapparent carriers.

    Horse lovers have had much serious debate on this topic as no one would want to condemn an equine friend to death, the alternative being too financially arduous for most people.

    Some persons view the inapparent carriers as a stronger life form and feel the policy is selecting in favour of the weaker animals.

    Unless one chooses to participate in a venue that requires testing, there is no law that mandates testing or disclosure.

    There are known areas where the disease is endemic, and experienced horse persons know to avoid purchasing animals from these regions.

    One should not buy a horse unless the seller is willing to provide a current negative Coggins test at the time of purchase, and that the animal, since testing has not been exposed to any situation where EIA is a concern.

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    Hi, All.

    LW, I'm not into horse throwing, but I've decided to come in to bat - LOL! The name of the thread is "Inherent Viral Purpose" and I'm now wondering if humans have one...Soon, there may be no "food for thought..."

    Albert Einstein quote: "If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man."

    The chytrid fungus is now decimating the bat population of north-east America. It's noted that it is this fungus which has been taking it's toll on amphibian populations around the globe - CLICK.

    Chytrids are parasitic fungi of eucaryotic algae and blue-green algae.

    Scientists have pinpointed the fungus linked to white-nose syndrome, the mysterious ailment that has wiped out large populations of bats in the northeastern United States.

    The fungus, found on the wings, ears, and muzzles of infected bats, is a member of the Geomyces genus.
    "Many of these bats were malnourished, dehydrated, basically starving, [but] otherwise seem to look normal."
    Because bats typically have only one pup a year, they are in a poor position to recover from population plunges.
    "If this is transmissible, it could really wipe out the flying, nocturnal insectivores section of the ecosystem."

    Wikipedia – “The chytrids are the most primitive of the fungi and are mostly saprobic, which means the fungus eats chitin and keratin. Many chytrids are aquatic and found in fresh water. There are approximately 1,000 chytrid species, in 127 genera, distributed among five orders. The chytrid fungus, Batrachchytrium dendrobatidisis responsible for a recently discovered disease of amphibians known as chytridiomycosis. Discovered in 1998 in Australia and Panama, this disease is known to kill amphibians in large numbers, and might be the principal cause for the worldwide amphibian decline since the 1990s. However, the precise cause and process of the amphibian deaths is still unknown.

    ...But it’s basically evolution by natural selection is what is responsible for infectious diseases. Evolution? Only, now, it's the rocket-assisted variety...

    These bats ate millions of tons of insects each year and now these bats aren’t going to be out on the landscape controlling insect populations. Instead of the white-nose fungus affecting only bats, the fungus is really affecting the whole ecosystem in the Northeast and it will just continue to get worse and worse as this progresses.”

    Some bats migrate to warmer climates during the winter, while others hibernate.

    One species travels 2,400 miles (3,862.4 kilometers) each year!

    Insects— About 70 percent of all bats eat insects: flies, mosquitoes, beetles, and cockroaches. A colony of bats in Texas eats 500,000 pounds (226,796 kilograms) of mosquitoes nightly!

    This chitin-/keratin-loving fungus is a necessary digestive aid in the diet of herbivores, but may now be failing to reach its target via its natural, and beneficial, delivery system. A quick check of the food chain evidences the relatively recent introduction of genetically modified, fungal-resistant crops. Enhancement of the ability of these flora to resist fungal and insect attack may have destroyed the previously symbiotic (host/parasite) relationship with the result that a beneficial, natural link has been broken. Instead, the insect population (which just happen to be the main food source for both the frog and many bat populations) now appear to have become a "viral carrier" to higher levels of the food chain, with deleterious effects. In addition, further damage is occurring: bees are likely being taken out by the adverse consequences of genetically modified pollen on their food-supply, while the cross-pollination effect is also killing the Monarch butterfly caterpillars.

    Beneficial insects are being disastrously affected. The natural inverterate predators, such and amphibians and bats, are also being wiped out. The result: no bees or bats = drastic reduction in crop pollination (although nowhere near as effective, there's always the wind, of course) resulting in an explosion of the remaining insect populations and the decimation of not only crops, but natural flora...oh, and let's not forget the increase in the incidence of insect-borne diseases.

    While this could well be jumping to conclusions, no matter what the cause, the horse has bolted...in the short-term, exponentially dire consequences await the higher trophic levels...

    Some sources for anyone who's interested:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au/news/2008/10/081031-bat-fungus.html
    http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/211/12/v
    http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-bat.html
    http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e33/9.htm
    http://bugs.bio.usyd.edu.au/Mycology/Taxonomy/chytridiomycota.shtml
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/05/070529-frog-fungus.html
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    Is it that we are but a shimmering glitter in the eye of eternity, a small parentheses enclosing a dust mote of a rare and lucky event of little significance on the edge of forever… or, that, as our luck has never ever failed—our joy and innocence will yet prevail— because we are on probability’s path of the ever possible, as long ago worked out in the realm of potential that evolved this universe to consciousness, which, as such, collapsed the wave function of all possible universes into ours?

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    Hi, Austin.

    Who knows...a diamond in a hall of mirrors stretching to eternity ?
    But nothing's lost. Or else: all is translation And every bit of us is lost in it... - James Merrill

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    All things shine of the light, like the stars—
    Colors I could have seen before, had I looked:
    For the stars were not white, but jeweled in hues,
    Sparkling and scintillating in rainbow colors.

    Sirius was a blue sapphire, Betelgeuse a ruby,
    Arcturus orange-fire, others, fine diamonds—
    The whole sky a light-bow of gems constellate,
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    Hi, All.

    LW, I'm not into horse throwing, but I've decided to come in to bat - LOL! The name of the thread is "Inherent Viral Purpose" and I'm now wondering if humans have one...Soon, there may be no "food for thought..."

    Albert Einstein quote: "If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man."

    The chytrid fungus is now decimating the bat population of north-east America. It's noted that it is this fungus which has been taking it's toll on amphibian populations around the globe - CLICK.

    Chytrids are parasitic fungi of eucaryotic algae and blue-green algae.

    Scientists have pinpointed the fungus linked to white-nose syndrome, the mysterious ailment that has wiped out large populations of bats in the northeastern United States.

    The fungus, found on the wings, ears, and muzzles of infected bats, is a member of the Geomyces genus.
    "Many of these bats were malnourished, dehydrated, basically starving, [but] otherwise seem to look normal."
    Because bats typically have only one pup a year, they are in a poor position to recover from population plunges.
    "If this is transmissible, it could really wipe out the flying, nocturnal insectivores section of the ecosystem."

    Wikipedia – “The chytrids are the most primitive of the fungi and are mostly saprobic, which means the fungus eats chitin and keratin. Many chytrids are aquatic and found in fresh water. There are approximately 1,000 chytrid species, in 127 genera, distributed among five orders. The chytrid fungus, Batrachchytrium dendrobatidisis responsible for a recently discovered disease of amphibians known as chytridiomycosis. Discovered in 1998 in Australia and Panama, this disease is known to kill amphibians in large numbers, and might be the principal cause for the worldwide amphibian decline since the 1990s. However, the precise cause and process of the amphibian deaths is still unknown.

    ...But it’s basically evolution by natural selection is what is responsible for infectious diseases. Evolution? Only, now, it's the rocket-assisted variety...

    These bats ate millions of tons of insects each year and now these bats aren’t going to be out on the landscape controlling insect populations. Instead of the white-nose fungus affecting only bats, the fungus is really affecting the whole ecosystem in the Northeast and it will just continue to get worse and worse as this progresses.”

    Some bats migrate to warmer climates during the winter, while others hibernate.

    One species travels 2,400 miles (3,862.4 kilometers) each year!

    Insects— About 70 percent of all bats eat insects: flies, mosquitoes, beetles, and cockroaches. A colony of bats in Texas eats 500,000 pounds (226,796 kilograms) of mosquitoes nightly!

    This chitin-/keratin-loving fungus is a necessary digestive aid in the diet of herbivores, but may now be failing to reach its target via its natural, and beneficial, delivery system. A quick check of the food chain evidences the relatively recent introduction of genetically modified, fungal-resistant crops. Enhancement of the ability of these flora to resist fungal and insect attack may have destroyed the previously symbiotic (host/parasite) relationship with the result that a beneficial, natural link has been broken. Instead, the insect population (which just happen to be the main food source for both the frog and many bat populations) now appear to have become a "viral carrier" to higher levels of the food chain, with deleterious effects. In addition, further damage is occurring: bees are likely being taken out by the adverse consequences of genetically modified pollen on their food-supply, while the cross-pollination effect is also killing the Monarch butterfly caterpillars.

    Beneficial insects are being disastrously affected. The natural inverterate predators, such and amphibians and bats, are also being wiped out. The result: no bees or bats = drastic reduction in crop pollination (although nowhere near as effective, there's always the wind, of course) resulting in an explosion of the remaining insect populations and the decimation of not only crops, but natural flora...oh, and let's not forget the increase in the incidence of insect-borne diseases.

    While this could well be jumping to conclusions, no matter what the cause, the horse has bolted...in the short-term, exponentially dire consequences await the higher trophic levels...

    Some sources for anyone who's interested:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au/news/2008/10/081031-bat-fungus.html
    http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/211/12/v
    http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-bat.html
    http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e33/9.htm
    http://bugs.bio.usyd.edu.au/Mycology/Taxonomy/chytridiomycota.shtml
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/05/070529-frog-fungus.html

    Hi Lesk...this is quite an excellent study you carried out here. Thanks for the information and the links.

    I googled in "when was GM seed introduced."

    There were several studies....here is some info from a couple of those studies...

    Adoption rate of farmers to GM-BT Maize in agriculture was first introduced from 1996 to 2006.
    By 2006 53,000 hectares of BT Maize were cultivated in Spain alone.
    Adoption rate is currently running as high as 60% of maize area in some regions.
    Adoption rate is influenced by regulatory and political developments.
    Insect resistant crops contain a gene from the Soil Bacterium, BACILLUS THURINGIENSIS that produces a protein toxic to specific insects.
    An estimated 200 million acres of genetically engineered crops with herbicide tolerance and/or insect resistance traits were cultivated in 17 contries worldwide in 2004 alone.
    When GE soy beans were introduced, soy allergies skyrocked. (Canadian Study.)

    Opponents speaking out about GM crops focused on:
    -risk to human health
    -fear of production of herbicide and pesticide resistant weeds and pests.
    -endangerment to biodiversity.

    All studies note...."Genetically Engineered and modified insect resistant crops is about crop losses, the possibility for increased crop yield and crop pofitability, tangible economic benefits and furthering Biotechological progress....this is not about health or the safety of biodiversity."

    I am inclined to believe that what is going on with scientific tampering into Nature is the cause of the present affects we are seeing for example to Bees and Bats....it seems like the breakdown of natures immune system....


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    Hi, Mikal.

    I need to look into this topic further to verify dates, but trials of GM crops went on for many years before they were released commercially;
    which begs the question, What's the difference? Once it's out there...it's out there!
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    Hi Lesk....I think the numerous studies are being carried out as fact-finding missions that would begin to determine on graphs such things as species extinction, dramatically rising health problems and the settling of issues like these and many others...

    "Many of these bats were malnourished, dehydrated, basically starving, [but] otherwise seem to look normal."

    This was an interesting statement because does it mean that bats might be designed to eat normal insects not completely poisoned insects...maybe along the lines that these species are system designed in nature to recognize "natures pollen" only....

    Yes once its out there, its out there....I guess we are examining its horrific effects....its looking like not a nice story....


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