Human Population Control

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Human Population Control by withholding information....

Haven't you felt that there were great holes of information in our text books regarding our history? I have. Even the photos in the text books didn't match the text underneath them. I usually didn't question the text, but the information never felt complete.

We may be kept in a kind of information box, by the ones in control. Sometimes information that we aren't supposed to see trickles into the box, and we escape. The amazing photos of Mars is an example of that. Here is another example.

If you have 47 minutes, and are interested in archeology from 10,000 to 17,000 years ago, see this video. The skull above is a naturally formed skull, and is not distorted. Klaus Dona will take you on a journey that will help you to escape the box...

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...he_Human_Race/

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Alex Jones and his crew usually puts together a good movie. You may be familiar with him. He comes on a little bit strong, for me, but I usually put my considerations about him aside to hear what he has to say. His voiceover seems a little overdramatic as he describes his idea of the elite endgame.

The movie describes the evolving idea of a New World Order beginning very early in the 20th Century, though, the part I focused on is in the second half.

I try to pick out the overview of the scientific studies in this film, such as America's early involvement in Eugenics and the early Evolutionists. They included old films describing this, which I found interesting, at about the hour and a half mark. Some of the films involve sterilization and extermination, and are discomforting.

It is also interesting how early computers and other technology were involved in numerical human stamping, to sort and control the population, even in '30s Germany.

Medical "checkups" weren't really checkups during the '40s, with human radiation testing. As the decades progressed, the progress of science seems to, in part, have turned against segments on the population, through invasive testing, sorting and controlling.

At the end of the film, Alex uses his megaphone, condemning the NWO in his own way. I believe this movie has some worthwhile footage on the subject of Human Population Control, and so I will post it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrN...next=1&index=4

[Mikal]

Well TP…as far as I can discern Alex covered in that video what most people are ignorant of and that would be the source of the myriad social issues now coming to the forefront in societies’ all over the world. The source is important because you can not wholly see a problem in its entirety without knowledge of the root.


I believe the first ignorance is as John Saul pointed out in his book; ‘The Unconscious Civilization’ that too many people in society do not understand that corporatism was part of the anti-democratic underpinnings of Fascist Italy and also Nazi Germany. He stated, ‘Beneath the uniforms and the military ambitions, racism and the dictatorial leadership lay corporatism. It was the intellectual foundation of fascism. It was supposed to have been destroyed along with both regimes in 1945.’


I suppose what fooled the masses was you can outwardly destroy the regimes without anyone knowing you did not destroy the root, the source! People in ignorance call the source a conspiracy when it is really now a highly corporationally funded and highly paid cauldron of ‘think tanks’ who orchestrate and direct powerful ideas. This goes hand in hand with the old adage, ‘a powerful idea can change the world.’


What is truly astounding and also most disturbing is that all social problems come together and begin to appear from this root source which we could simply call ‘displaced power and the conquest of Empire.’ Naomi Klein put it quite starkly as ‘the rise of disaster capitalism’ and the Freidman slogan, ‘create the crisis, control the crisis and solve the crisis’ and in so doing Multinational Corporations ‘buy up the economy,’ rule the world through scientific dictatorship and suppress human liberty and freedom in the name of ‘CONSTANT CRISIS’ and the need for endless high technological security.


I need not say anymore, Alex covered all the bases, he revealed history, revealed most of the main players, revealed those used in the game of power and covered a lot of the most important quotes and though he seems to taunt these people when he meets them his passion seems very much directed to the public good.


‘Nature in her wisdom births from the root both beautiful flowers and weeds of nuisance but this kind of man-made root births only sinister forces.’

Regards Mikal

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The photos in this video are interesting. I don't know if they have been altered. The premise is that the major governments of this world are planning to pose an alien attack on this planet with reverse engineered space ships they found in the 1900s.

Other images during Hitler's reign are quite erie. Have fun...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTztm...eature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYKcS...eature=related

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I still haven't made it to London, yet. Here is a video of some London images, noting the thousands of cameras around the city. The video creator is trying to send a message about how certain freedoms have been taken away, so as to make the population more safe from terrorists and such. The whole city is on camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8tleOA8S-Q&feature=fvw

At the end of the video, the message of questioning authority and the status quo for a greater peace of mind, and freedom from the "Big Brother" cameras.

This lead me to a thought about a movie I saw called "V for Vendetta". Hugo Weaving plays the role of the one who stands up to a suppressive system in future England. Here is a video of a speech he made during a pirated TV,(or Telly) broadcast in London. He is trying to unite the people to fight a corruptive state while remaining hidden behind a mask. We never see the actor's face during the movie. He becomes a symbol for the hidden power behind the people, and the good influence against the elite corruption in the futuristic society. Natlie Portman plays the young woman assisting him in his endeavor....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4CEEY

Sometimes segments of our culture, such as movies, are set to really help awaken us to certain realities about our societies. Human Population Control really shouldn't be, such as it is. The control of our population numbers should never be covert or devious. Man, or the elite, or government officials, or military personal, shouldn't have to be put in the situation of killing others in order to diminish the population. It was never meant to be their decision or job to control our population numbers, in my opinion.

They are being tasked to do this as a great hardship to their own well being. Regardless of a callousness of feelings, their future well being is under torment. Their decisions about our numbers, reproductivity, food and water supply limitations, viral bioengineering, is detrimental to themselves, as well as ourselves.

It isn't a matter of guilt. The lack of productive responsibility of our elite is, now, become dangerous to themselves. They spread irresponsibility, which defaults of integrity and prosperity for us all.

Sorry, I get carried away.

All of the posts thus far, in this thread, are kept as good journalism, without being too opinionated. But every now and then, I should express my personal feelings on this subject. As the movie, "V" points out, words are very powerful. They should be used to make a point.

The point of this thread is to point out the many different ways we, as the population of our planet, are being controlled. My forth grade teacher spent an hour, one day, teaching us about propaganda, in commercials, on TV, in ads, in the news, and such. I still remember the lesson. It was the beginning of my education on "legitimate deception".

Maybe someday forth graders won't have to worry about such things....

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Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski (Polish: Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzeziński, pronounced [ˈzbiɡɲev bʐɛˈʑiĩ̯ski]; born March 28, 1928, Warsaw, Poland) is an American political scientist, geostrategist, and statesman who served as United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981. He was known for his hawkish foreign policy at a time when the Democratic Party was increasingly dovish.

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

"I once put it rather pungently, and I was flattered that the British Foreign Secretary repeated this, as follows: ... namely, in early times, it was easier to to control a million people, literally it was easier to control a million people than physically to kill a million people. Today, it is infinitely easier to to kill a million people than to control a million people. It is easier to kill than to control...."

A group of former CIA and military officials have written to President Obama to say they believe Israel is preparing to attack Iran this month. (Aug., 2010)

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/content/...r-iii-scenario

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=20403

It may be possible that the controllers of human population have experienced some failure on the subject. The Swine Flu didn't do the intended damage. Other events may not have taken hold due to a more aware internet society.

Planned World War might give these controllers the population numbers they are looking for.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=20250

How will a post World War population be controlled?

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Master Yoda...

Who are the "third party"?

"There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another civilization: via its standing representatives or directly with individuals without distinction. The first way entails fights of interests, the second way brings awareness.

The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool and human emotional energy.

The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause of the Spirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this disinterested cause and introduced ourselves a few years ago to representatives of the human power who refused our outstretched hand on the pretext of incompatible interests with their strategic vision.

That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves without any representative interfering. What we proposed in the past to those whom we believed were in a capacity to contribute to your happiness, we propose it now to ... you!

Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise of those centralising powers without them being neither suspected nor accessible to your senses. This is so true that they have almost very subtly taken control. They do not necessarily stand on your material plan, and that is precisely what could make them extremely efficient and frightening in the near future. However, be aware that a large number of your representatives are fighting this danger ! Be aware that not all abductions are made against you. It is difficult to recognize the truth!"


The above paragraphs are from a message from, supposedly, a compassionate alien council that is warning us against a dark side alien force that is siding with our darker elite of this world.

Here is the message. It centers around the statement, 'DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP.'

http://projectmothership.isgreat.org...Up.html#decide

This is an audio version of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dwl6...eature=related

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Senate Bill S510 Makes it illegal to Grow, Share, Trade or Sell Homegrown Food

The World’s Prophecy
August 13, 2010
Update:
Since the story first broke, a lot has happened. One reason for this could be that food is being poisoned. Collecting rainwater is now illegal in many states. Your intake is being controlled. For more information, visit the following articles as well:
Raiding organic food stores. A sign of new times?
Collecting rainwater now illegal in many states as Big Government claims ownership over our water
Why do people in America refuse to take active interest in their future?
S 510, the Food Safety Modernization Act of 2010, may be the most dangerous bill in the history of the US. It is to our food what the bailout was to our economy, only we can live without money.
“If accepted [S 510] would preclude the public’s right to grow, own, trade, transport, share, feed and eat each and every food that nature makes. It will become the most offensive authority against the cultivation, trade and consumption of food and agricultural products of one’s choice. It will be unconstitutional and contrary to natural law or, if you like, the will of God.” ~Dr. Shiv Chopra, Canada Health whistleblower
It is similar to what India faced with imposition of the salt tax during British rule, only S 510 extends control over all food in the US, violating the fundamental human right to food.
Monsanto says it has no interest in the bill and would not benefit from it, but Monsanto’s Michael Taylor who gave us rBGH and unregulated genetically modified (GM) organisms, appears to have designed it and is waiting as an appointed Food Czar to the FDA (a position unapproved by Congress) to administer the agency it would create — without judicial review — if it passes. S 510 would give Monsanto unlimited power over all US seed, food supplements, food and farming.
History
In the 1990s, Bill Clinton introduced HACCP (Hazardous Analysis Critical Control Points) purportedly to deal with contamination in the meat industry. Clinton’s HACCP delighted the offending corporate (World Trade Organization “WTO”) meat packers since it allowed them to inspect themselves, eliminated thousands of local food processors (with no history of contamination), and centralized meat into their control. Monsanto promoted HACCP.
In 2008, Hillary Clinton, urged a powerful centralized food safety agency as part of her campaign for president. Her advisor was Mark Penn, CEO of Burson Marsteller*, a giant PR firm representing Monsanto. Clinton lost, but Clinton friends such as Rosa DeLauro, whose husband’s firm lists Monsanto as a progressive client and globalization as an area of expertise, introduced early versions of S 510.
S 510 fails on moral, social, economic, political, constitutional, and human survival grounds.
1. It puts all US food and all US farms under Homeland Security and the Department of Defense, in the event of contamination or an ill-defined emergency. It resembles the Kissinger Plan.
2. It would end US sovereignty over its own food supply by insisting on compliance with the WTO, thus threatening national security. It would end the Uruguay Round Agreement Act of 1994, which put US sovereignty and US law under perfect protection. Instead, S 510 says:
COMPLIANCE WITH INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS.
Nothing in this Act (or an amendment made by this Act) shall be construed in a manner inconsistent with the agreement establishing the World Trade Organization or any other treaty or international agreement to which the United States is a party.
3. It would allow the government, under Maritime Law, to define the introduction of any food into commerce (even direct sales between individuals) as smuggling into “the United States.” Since under that law, the US is a corporate entity and not a location, “entry of food into the US” covers food produced anywhere within the land mass of this country and “entering into” it by virtue of being produced.

4. It imposes Codex Alimentarius on the US, a global system of control over food. It allows the United Nations (UN), World Health Organization (WHO), UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), and the WTO to take control of every food on earth and remove access to natural food supplements. Its bizarre history and its expected impact in limiting access to adequate nutrition (while mandating GM food, GM animals, pesticides, hormones, irradiation of food, etc.) threatens all safe and organic food and health itself, since the world knows now it needs vitamins to survive, not just to treat illnesses.
5. It would remove the right to clean, store and thus own seed in the US, putting control of seeds in the hands of Monsanto and other multinationals, threatening US security. See Seeds – How to criminalize them, for more details.
6. It includes NAIS, an animal traceability program that threatens all small farmers and ranchers raising animals. The UN is participating through the WHO, FAO, WTO, and World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE) in allowing mass slaughter of even heritage breeds of animals and without proof of disease. Biodiversity in farm animals is being wiped out to substitute genetically engineered animals on which corporations hold patents. Animal diseases can be falsely declared. S 510 includes the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), despite its corrupt involvement in the H1N1 scandal, which is now said to have been concocted by the corporations.
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7. It extends a failed and destructive HACCP to all food, thus threatening to do to all local food production and farming what HACCP did to meat production – put it in corporate hands and worsen food safety.
8. It deconstructs what is left of the American economy. It takes agriculture and food, which are the cornerstone of all economies, out of the hands of the citizenry, and puts them under the total control of multinational corporations influencing the UN, WHO, FAO and WTO, with HHS, and CDC, acting as agents, with Homeland Security as the enforcer. The chance to rebuild the economy based on farming, ranching, gardens, food production, natural health, and all the jobs, tools and connected occupations would be eliminated.
9. It would allow the government to mandate antibiotics, hormones, slaughterhouse waste, pesticides and GMOs. This would industrialize every farm in the US, eliminate local organic farming, greatly increase global warming from increased use of oil-based products and long-distance delivery of foods, and make food even more unsafe. The five items listed — the Five Pillars of Food Safety — are precisely the items in the food supply which are the primary source of its danger.
10. It uses food crimes as the entry into police state power and control. The bill postpones defining all the regulations to be imposed; postpones defining crimes to be punished, postpones defining penalties to be applied. It removes fundamental constitutional protections from all citizens in the country, making them subject to a corporate tribunal with unlimited power and penalties, and without judicial review. It is (similar to C-6 in Canada) the end of Rule of Law in the US.
For further information, watch these videos:
Food Laws – Forcing people to globalize
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia-P4rL2IWc
State Imposed Violence … to snatch resources of ordinary people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onw_P...eature=related
Corporate Rule
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PwqU...eature=related
Reclaiming Economies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXoJH...eature=related
Oak snake image at Alfred B. Maclay Gardens State Park, Florida
http://snipurl.com/vrg6p

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This is really sad. Could you imagine getting arrested for growing a radish or a tomato?
Lets give these Senators a big hand, and a tomato, for writing and backing the monster.
Thanks to Sen. Durbin & company
Cosponsors:
Lamar Alexander [R-TN]
Jeff Bingaman [D-NM]
Richard Burr [R-NC]
Roland Burris [D-IL]
Saxby Chambliss [R-GA]
Christopher Dodd [D-CT]
Michael Enzi [R-WY]
Kirsten Gillibrand [D-NY]
Judd Gregg [R-NH]
Thomas Harkin [D-IA]
Orrin Hatch [R-UT]
John Isakson [R-GA]
Edward Kennedy [D-MA]
Amy Klobuchar [D-MN]
Tom Udall [D-NM]

[Mikal]

The UN is participating through the WHO, FAO, WTO, and World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE) in allowing mass slaughter of even heritage breeds of animals and without proof of disease. Biodiversity in farm animals is being wiped out to substitute genetically engineered animals on which corporations hold patents.—article quote

Pertinent to this statement and Canada’s Bill C-6 concerning Food Laws, a week ago Saturday there was a huge protest here as farm animals were removed from our long established Penetentiary Farm Program. Farm Program animals are not animals injected with GH.
Large cattle trucks hauled them all away to auction and the Farm Program which also consisted of roughly 700 healthy chickens were destroyed and eliminated.

I do believe this is coming down to Canadians as government shutting down programs they no longer want to continue under the guise of saving money and deficit problems however, in the light of C-6 this is nothing more than paving the road for ‘genetically engineered animals.’

For those protesting this move, the outcome like G-20 was ugly with baton bashing and some arrests.

Sad indeed TP, people had best wake up soon!!

Regards Mikal

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The move to mono-culture is indeed troubling as it leaves us very vulnerable to the whims of nature, which utilizes diversity as a safety net for balance and survivability in the face of change.

Where I live, there are several who still follow the old ways and know how to save seeds and harvest from the wild.

This knowledge may well be of importance in the future.

We also practice carefully selected breeding of animals that are best suited to contending with our environment, which seems to be experiencing climate shift, as are many other areas of the globe.

Diversity is important to our future and any actions of government and organizations that reduce that diversity are at best short-sighted, and at worst, suspect.

Long live the weeds, many of which are highly palatable and more nutritious than our supermarket offerings.