[harmonygirl]

Absolutely Michael and I don't believe that the "lord and saviour" enters into it one bit...The Goddess knows better...

[mkirkpatrick]

Thats right Harmony,our spiritual heritage and direct link with the Absolute,
has absolutely nothing to to with religion,faith,or belonging to any sect,but has everything to do with reality,as it is!We are hardwired into the universal
expression of existance,as as expressed human beings,we have reached a stage in our evolutionary cycle,whereby conscious contact with our indwelling soul is permissible,and is enabled!There are now many on earth who are conscious of their soul,and are entering into the realm and kingdom
of the soul,albeit many do tis at night,when in sleep mode,but there are some
who maintain contact in full wakefull consciousness.
A new dawn is breaking on this planet,and a new kingdom is making itself
felt,the kingdom of soulful realization!

kind regardsmichael.

[r.p.bibra]

What the ls. Understands about the 'theoretical' meaning of spirituality is that we are all divine. Spiritualism is the path to realize this truth. How we translate this truth in our lives is shown by our conduct, we find 'living' spiritualism in the lives of Lord Jesus, mother Theresa. We find spiritualism in practice only at individual level& those personages had renounced the world, though serving its destitute like mother Theresa. But such examples are rare. We hardly find the political leaders, rich persons or the intellectual practicing it in their daily life, because the destiny of the nation and its citizen is in their hands. Had it been so, eastern countries besides being poor, would not be fighting against each other or among themselves; human values had not gone down the slide in the western world. Even if there are millions of man made temples of God, but there is hardly any change in the life pattern of the followers. Because we try to reach the “home of Reality” which is in cavity of our spiritual heart, through the mind (external means)! The mind, which is always on flight in the material world, which is its natural habitat, is not trained to inverse its direction. If we listen to the voice of our true master/guru, the conscience, we would not be the playthings of our senses, but would put proper restraint on them.
Often our doubting mind asks about the need for spiritual way of life, when the humanity has found so many other means of governance, viz., political system, constitution, law& order machinery, judiciary, social securities & what not! Human beings would be machines without conscience, religious morality & ethical values! The results are before us: whole of Asia, Africa& Middle East is riddled with internal strife; the developed countries are also not good examples of ethical values. They fought two world wars; are exporting to poor countries a 'culture' which is least suitable to them. The question is could spiritualism be turned into a movement like the political revolutions, for bringing transformation in general behavior of the leaders of the world at least! No, it can never take the form of movement, as it always works at individual level. It brings about harmony of thought, word and deed, which are the most sought after virtues, especially in the lives of the leaders of the world in every sphere of life. Why religions have failed in this august task? Had it been so, there would not have been more 5500 wars in the recorded history of human race! Religions the world over, instead of bringing unity---which is their primary principle, creates division in the society. Then what is the solution? The solution lies in the subject, which brother Michael has so assiduously been pursuing relentlessly and selflessly. Bravo sir, the ls. salutes thee. love. ls.

[mkirkpatrick]

rpbibra,ls,Thank you again foryour input here,This topic is very close to my
heart,I note all the things that you mentioned,yes there is much wrong
in many lands,and many meglamanianics,despots,and tyrants,all syphoning
off their countries wealth into Swiss bank accounts.But this will not stop the
awakening of the race,now this process,although it has begun,will take a
century or two to make a significant impression,evolution will not be hurried!
The main thing to realise is that it has begun,and that today souls are waking up,and claming there divine and perfectly natural heritage!We can see this,identify with it,and expand our consiousness to enter into the realm of
the waking soul.


kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

rp, I guess what I am trying to say is that it is not only the "lord and saviour" that understands that we are aspects of the divine, many other belief systems also promote this understanding. The living spiritualism you speak of can be found in Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, animism, paganism, druidism, wicca and other Goddess centred ways of understanding. The examples are there if you are open to seeing them. To answer one of your last questions, religions have failed (largely, there are individual exceptions) in the promotion of spiritual awareness and unity because they got involved in political games, assumed political means and sought political goals (centralization of power, wealth, authority). If you ask why there is no unity, consider your own approach to other faiths. Do you see their truth or only your own?

[mkirkpatrick]

I can remember I think the first time I identified with the awareness of an inner monitor,soul,It was as is often the case,after a very severe crisis in my
life,I became aware of an inner aid,support and courage welling up from the depths of my being.I was understand that this was my first formal,introd-
duction,to my inner being,and the soul who resides within.In my line of
occupation,which includes caringfor those who are at times most unwell.
I too have noticed in someof them,an awakening,after they had a severe
crisis in their life,I have seen some totally transformed by the process,like
they were literally re-born again!


kind regards michael.

[r.p.bibra]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl

rp, I guess what I am trying to say is that it is not only the "lord and saviour" that understands that we are aspects of the divine, many other belief systems also promote this understanding. The living spiritualism you speak of can be found in Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, animism, paganism, druidism, wicca and other Goddess centred ways of understanding. The examples are there if you are open to seeing them. To answer one of your last questions, religions have failed (largely, there are individual exceptions) in the promotion of spiritual awareness and unity because they got involved in political games, assumed political means and sought political goals (centralization of power, wealth, authority). If you ask why there is no unity, consider your own approach to other faiths. Do you see their truth or only your own?

pehaps the ls., has been unable to covey correctly his point of view.he in not out here to convert others to his 'ideas/thought' because he has none.he is attached to none;committed to none.only one aim---reality(whatever it is).here is trying to understand his 'existence'.he makes no disinctions in caste, creed, rigion, gender or between rich& poor, nor subscribe to any religion or faith. he belives, all living beings are united by the same air we breathe,as we share the bebefits of other elements. there is only one Supreme-Intelligence, which pervades in all. you are giving him unnecessary weightage as his 'intelligence' level is just about 'average', as such his reactions to intellectual discourses are often clumsy.but he is a serious learner, just try! he will listen with reverence to any 'idea/thought' which leads him to better understand the Supreme--in whichever form or non-form It is.l.s.

[mkirkpatrick]

In all the halls of learning in ancient Greece,written over the entrance of the
portal to the within,were the words "Man know thyself",this is the first and last thingto know,and understand,for when we get aquainted with our real
selves,and enter the "penetralia"we will discover our soul,and begin to journey,inwards to the kingdom of souls,and tap into the vast amount of
wisdom,and knowledge there,a universal ocean of unlimited conscious contact,with other souls.We have to deracineate all of our old ideas,and
embrace the inner kingdom of soulful realization.

kind regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Michael, you may be interested in this article on energy healing. This is the bio-physics science of it. It is also what my daughter teaches. Here's the link:
http://www.emergentmind.org/Roffey06.htm magnetohydrodynamics and mind healing.

regards,

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie

Michael, you may be interested in this article on energy healing. This is the bio-physics science of it. It is also what my daughter teaches. Here's the link:
http://www.emergentmind.org/Roffey06.htm magnetohydrodynamics and mind healing.

regards,

Thank you kindly Lloyd,I will check this out at once.


regards michael.