[mkirkpatrick]

What is emerging from within the human family on a global scale,is the realization,and acceptance of the soul,by this I do not mean,in the sense that there are millions who have always accepted the reality of the soul,as this is part of their religous beliefs,rather the others who have no particular
belief,or even faith,but who have come to this realization,via their own personal experiences,and an inner longing to understand themselves at a greater depth.These few individuals are I feel gathering momentum,and as they share their realizations with their family and friends,more look within and find that reality for themselves.


kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

Michael, if consider aether soul, what implications arise from your premise?

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl Michael, if consider aether soul, what implications arise from your premise?

That is an excellent question harmony,the answer
may prove difficult to accept?The cloth of universal manifestation,that which
ALL of phenomenal existance is made from,is the aether,or soul,this is the very nature of manifested manifestation,if you could see the "barcode" of all
substance you would see "made by soul"!!!Now the implications are that,this
is the very nature of reality,"thisis the way it is"and that being so,it will when further researched and accepted,be eventually taught in university and schools,this i feel will be phased in over the next fifty years.


kind regards michael

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Michael, feelings don't make facts___no proof___only science does...

regards

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick That is an excellent question harmony,the answer may prove difficult to accept?The cloth of universal manifestation,that which ALL of phenomenal existance is made from,is the aether,or soul,this is the very nature of manifested manifestation,if you could see the "barcode" of all substance you would see "made by soul"!!!Now the implications are that,this is the very nature of reality,"thisis the way it is"and that being so,it will when further researched and accepted,be eventually taught in university and schools,this i feel will be phased in over the next fifty years. kind regards michael

[mkirkpatrick]

Lloyd.forgive me for asking,but what exactly are you stating when you say..
feelings dont make facts_no proof,only science does.I am abundantly aware
and fully realizing that feelings do not make facts,but what exactly is it you say that science does?Is it to do with producing facts!Are you in effect stating that without science,we would all be bereft of any facts,and would be all like startled rabbits caught in the headlights of reality?

kind regards michael.

[r.p.bibra]

your thoughts are noble& are born out of a compassionate heart, but the facts are otherwise:no doubt,it is fashion of the day to be connected with high profile Gurus;the atmosphere,the sermons& the gathering of attentive followers, all this gives out a very sublime experience.alas this could be translated into real life!the life of the gurus is anything but an example to follow;there is no co-ordination between their thought,word and deed.they preach compassion,sacrifice and love for other,but they spew hatred& zealous for other gurus;live in palatial masons,support effluent life.the little-self has personal experience with dozens of such jet-set gurus.their oratory is masterful,but their life style is shallow.they cater to elite class,who is interested only in their 'mental realization.they are least bothered if millions of their brethren die of starvation,lack basic facilities like food,health care,education& a roof for shelter.the 500 top nominees of the fortune list could change the life of have-nots of the world,but they believe in their inherited axiom "why should i help these poor wreches,they should help themselves out of it;i have made my own fortune,why should i squander it away for these lazy scums?both guru&the follower should first blossom in their hearts the seeds of compassion,sacrifice&love before they undertake the responsibility for the transformation of others. basic amenities first,spiritualism later. does anyone give a though as to how poor nations are equipped with most modern/lethal armaments,while their citizens are dying of hunger?who provides them these arms&with whom are they fighting with?only among themselves! what a funny world,but still it is a beautiful one at that.harsh words,but only for those who live in their shells of day-dreaming,as this phenomenal world will not bless them immortality;they&the have-not are in the same line that leads to mortuary.(innocent souls may forgive)

[harmonygirl]

rp, perhaps those who clothe themselves in the aura of righteousness but live hedonistic lives are not true 'gurus'. false and selfserving prophets are everywhere. it is up to us to use reason and intuition to separate truth from shallowness...

[mkirkpatrick]

Bibra ls,I read your response to this thread,and although,I understand wholly
as to what you say,and the many false-(profits)??That abound today,and who likewise respond to the question,"am I my brothers keeper"as a big firm
negitive,but I disagree with you,when you state,"the facts are otherwise",
in my experience which in this field spans 40 years,(a mere blink in the eye of the eternal one.i know)but I have found,met,talked with,lived with,and remain firm friends with.many who have discovered their inner soul,and have
often had profound spiritual experiences asthe result off,andvery rarely I have witnessed this,and have been truly humbled by the illuminatory event.
There are indeed many human beings today who are also having that spiritual
experience and our "waking up"to the discovery and realityof the human soul.

kind regards michael.

[r.p.bibra]

there is no dearth of genuine seekers,as there is no dearth of genuine masters.those who seek spiritual experience,their desire is bound to be fulfilled. but the ls. has strong feelings about the commercialisation of God's name.when pseudo, so-called, masters play with feelings of innocent minds.ls. has seen both sides of the coin.it is nice to hear that you had such wonderful associations.like you,ls.spent a major part of his life in the search of genuine spiritual 'company'---which ultimately was graced in 'person';under whose divine spell he is still blessed---but there were too many a disappointments.perhaps his quest was not strong& not backed with 'inner built-up' of values,which are the prerequisite.all the best,revel in sacred company&be blessed.love.ls.

[mkirkpatrick]

A very true adage goes like this;"like attracts like",birds of a feather flock
together,I have personally found this to be very true.
Here is another,"many are called but few are chosen"It is only in these recent
years that i have realised that the one choosing is yourself?Whatthen are we choosing to do!I think the answer is in the conscious effort to move away from self-centred things and exclusiveness,and begin to embrace the inclusive idea,and re-cognise our connection with all and everyone.When the
individual awakens to soul consciousness,usually but not always after a crisis
point in their life,there also awakens a creativity and a compassion for others.The main thing to realize is thatthis happens in accordance to natural
law,and it matters not if the individual is an atheist or not!Thefact is that we all are human souls,whether we know it or not?Believe it or not,or accept it or not,what is,is not hampered by puny individual acceptances or denials!

kind regards michael.