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    Well, I rather imagine they will evict at least most of the bats... perhaps just leave one mine for bats and other animals. I understand that cattle emit a lot of methane gas, so I suppose that will help keep the bat population under control in there.
    We could prehaps tap the methane gas from the cows,and do our cooking from it?
    That would be good for recycling!



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    We could prehaps tap the methane gas from the cows,and do our cooking from it? That would be good for recycling!
    And simultaneously eliminate the obesity epidemic.

    Ahh, the irony of cooking cows over their own flatulence...
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    And simultaneously eliminate the obesity epidemic.

    Ahh, the irony of cooking cows over their own flatulence...

    Lets hope it it will get that Bad?


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    Lets hope it it will get that Bad?
    I have long had the strange feeling that I would die when I am 42, which gives me 5 more years, so I have no business hoping.

    In the Infinite sense, Bad, like Good, is quite paradoxical in nature. It already is that Bad, just as it already is that Good, has always been, and will always be, whether humans bear witness to it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    I have long had the strange feeling that I would die when I am 42, which gives me 5 more years, so I have no business hoping.

    In the Infinite sense, Bad, like Good, is quite paradoxical in nature. It already is that Bad, just as it already is that Good, has always been, and will always be, whether humans bear witness to it or not.
    Yes that does seem about right,good and bad,are pretty subjective words,like the bad
    weather in the summer,ie;pouring down with rain,is good news to those who sell umberellas?

    I have had a feeling like that too Elizabeth,it gives me 10 more years!When that time
    approaches,I may well be asking for an extension?

    I have heard of the terrific storms you have just had there,many died I gather.
    Were you affected directly by the tornado?

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    I'm fine, that was a bit to the east of me. I'm not surprised, though - the weather has been strange this winter, and for the last few days the weather has been really weird - huge, long gusts of wind as strong as hurricane bands blowing pretty much straight down, rapidly cycling hot and cold weather, a couple of days ago the barometric pressure dropped to the mid 29.8's (When I start feeling anxious for no identifiable reason, I check the barometric pressure and, so far, every time has correlated with an unusual drop in barometric pressure) - and about 3 weeks ago the weather pattern was like a false summer (in FL in the summer it tends to rain every day from about 1:30 to about 4:30 p.m.). Just odd.

    The "bad weather" of the summer "pouring down rain" - I would far rather see than a drought.

    Umbrellas? I live in the lightning captial of the world, and I do not carry a lightning rod (umbrella). I've been nearly electrocuted 3 times, and of those 3 times, the indirect hit by lightning was the most painful - and that was just through the water faucet inside the house. I'd rather get rained on.

    If this woman's belt buckle could get her killed, and umbrella would really be asking for it:
    http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/9807/08/lightning.strikes/
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    Re: Spiralling consequences of Consumption

    Even in India, we would be looking like a lot of land area due to rise in sea levels... that would be disasterous..



    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    What is the alternate source they are using?I have traveled the highways of India,and there seems to be many more lorries on the road that any other form of transport!

    I would think that solar power would be used much there,you get much more sun than
    we do here in the UK.

    The roads here in the UK are slowly becoming gridlocked,big cities are now charging a
    fee to enter the cities at certain times of the day.trying to encourage more to use public
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    Our local news has reported that fish stocks are down around British waters,and retrictions may have to be imposed.


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    Re: Spiralling consequences of Consumption

    I'm not hearing anything in the US about global warming. Although it's nice to know that President Bush is finally taking it "seriously" now that it is too close to the end of his second term that he could possibly do anything about it... Other than the movie released by Al Gore about it, there really hasn't been much said except for a few debates where equal time and consideration is given to sceintists who claim that this is a natural flux of Earth's temperature and those that say humans have made an impact. It has only been in the last 2 or 3 years that the media has stopped debating whether or not global warming is real or all scare tactics by overexuberant environmentalists.

    At least I am seeing fewer SUVs and sport utility trucks on the roads - likely do to higher gas prices. It was so ridiculous for awhile that even commentators were asking why so many people needed 4 wheel drive gigantic vehicles when all they did was drive on the pavement anyway.

    There just does not seem to be much thought about global warming over here. Actually come to think of it, there doesn't seem to be much thought over here... a few thinkers of course, but people mostly just go about their lives and get their thoughts downloaded from a television at night. There are too many shootings, child molestations, and that sort of thing to fit global warming on the news - then they watch their voyeristic nitwits-on-TV, and fiction shows that they often don't even realize are fiction. Pretty sad to anyone who wakes up enough to look around.
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    Re: Spiralling consequences of Consumption

    I am not sure US is all that serious about this subject..


    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    I'm not hearing anything in the US about global warming. Although it's nice to know that President Bush is finally taking it "seriously" now that it is too close to the end of his second term that he could possibly do anything about it... Other than the movie released by Al Gore about it, there really hasn't been much said except for a few debates where equal time and consideration is given to sceintists who claim that this is a natural flux of Earth's temperature and those that say humans have made an impact. It has only been in the last 2 or 3 years that the media has stopped debating whether or not global warming is real or all scare tactics by overexuberant environmentalists.

    At least I am seeing fewer SUVs and sport utility trucks on the roads - likely do to higher gas prices. It was so ridiculous for awhile that even commentators were asking why so many people needed 4 wheel drive gigantic vehicles when all they did was drive on the pavement anyway.

    There just does not seem to be much thought about global warming over here. Actually come to think of it, there doesn't seem to be much thought over here... a few thinkers of course, but people mostly just go about their lives and get their thoughts downloaded from a television at night. There are too many shootings, child molestations, and that sort of thing to fit global warming on the news - then they watch their voyeristic nitwits-on-TV, and fiction shows that they often don't even realize are fiction. Pretty sad to anyone who wakes up enough to look around.

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    Thanks Elizabeth,here to global warming gets pushed to the back page,while the antics of
    politicians are on the front page,usually because they have been doing something that they are not paid to do!

    I remember watching the sci/fi film Soylent Green,with Charlton Heston,the film was about the oceans dying,food running out,where you could check in to be put to sleep
    permanantly,in state owned "parlours",then your body would be shipped off for processing?I well remember the bit in the film where Heston runs frantically into the
    street shout "Soylent Green is people"!Is this a vision for our future I wonder?



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