[infinitethoughts]

....that the "past: and the :future: are continually regenerated within a never-ending Now, Individually and Collectively.

And further, if you do believe this, how one can use this way of thinking in practical life.

BTW-Just joined. Great forum !

[Profpat]

Hi infinitethoughts;

Welcome to the TOE Quest Forum. I believe there are a few members who share that thought with you. I guess I believe in the HERE and NOW, but by the time my body experiences it, it's then and there. Consequently, my physical self is always living in the past.

Best to you,

Pat

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi infinitethoughts; Consequently, my physical self is always living in the past.

Well I'd say that the idea of the physical self living in the past is due to a belief in Linear time.

Linear time believes that we are constantly passing from the past to the future and the present is only a sliver of time.

This came about 300 years ago through Newton.

But it's interesting what happens when one stops and realizes that the words "past" and "future" are simply conceptual ideas.
No where in the present Now, are they perceivable, do they exist.

If one comes from the perspective that all there is is Now, and the above are only concepts, then the viewpoint changes for the perceiver.

[mkirkpatrick]

Thanks for the thread infinitethoughts,many think this way,the ever present now is as narrow or as wide as our perception perceives it to be,to the Absolute NOW is Absolute,
and eternal,to most of us now seems limited and relative.




regards michael.

[sillysally]

Hi, welcome. I just posted something similar in another thread before I read this one. I think it's all concurrent and I started understanding that when I had the NOW revelation years ago. The thought hasn't changed although I can't remember the specifics, but d! it brought me to the conclusion that we experience eternity during life and even after death, our life that we experienced is still an experience to that particular individual. It's continual, so someone that died 15 years ago is still alive in their own world, living the same life just for an exceptionally long time, forever.

How do you view death with this continual NOW? Is there any other way to understand it? I'd like to broaden this with something new that I have never heard of before.

[sillysally]

I forgot to mention, now is comparable to a plank. Since the moment is so finitiny (that's what I call a plank before I knew that's what it was), and can't be measured, then in my mind that proves everything is continually concurrent.

It's not practical in life mainly because not many people understand it, they like their beginnings and endings. It's hard for people to grasp eternity being a continual existence, yet they all believe when they die they have eternal life and don't seem to have a problem with that. Even though it's about the same thing, except with an explanation behind it. It takes mystery out of life and people will think they don't have much of a purpose and then mass suicides, blah blah blah. I don't talk about it much and I certainly don't push it on people, it sound so redundant coming from a few members here, and a little too mystical for my taste.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Thanks for the thread infinitethoughts,many think this way,the ever present now is as narrow or as wide as our perception perceives it to be,to the Absolute NOW is Absolute, and eternal,to most of us now seems limited and relative. regards michael.

Michael.
Thanks.

After perusing the forum, I can see that there are still those that can't let go of Linear time on this forum.

Should be interesting discussions.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by sillysally I forgot to mention, now is comparable to a plank. Since the moment is so finitiny (that's what I call a plank before I knew that's what it was), and can't be measured, then in my mind that proves everything is continually concurrent. It's not practical in life mainly because not many people understand it, they like their beginnings and endings. It's hard for people to grasp eternity being a continual existence, yet they all believe when they die they have eternal life and don't seem to have a problem with that. Even though it's about the same thing, except with an explanation behind it. It takes mystery out of life and people will think they don't have much of a purpose and then mass suicides, blah blah blah. I don't talk about it much and I certainly don't push it on people, it sound so redundant coming from a few members here, and a little too mystical for my taste.

Great word, "finitiny".

Yeah I agree, it's very hard for people to grasp it.
Quantum mechanics has not filtered down to the masses, and many physicists. I remember reading somewhere they accept it in the Laboratory, but discard it in their personal lives.

Well they way I view death and eternity, is I've always had the idea that this place is a "vacation" from the continual Now.

If you think about it, it's intriguing. You live in a place where everything happens "instantly". What more would one want?

A "vacation".

-Side note: This has become a mystical discussion, but I don't see anything wrong with it.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi infinitethoughts; Consequently, my physical self is always living in the past. Best to you, Pat

Pat.
After thinking about what you said, I have an additional question.

If your self is always living in the past, how on earth would one make any progress?

[Mikal]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts Pat. After thinking about what you said, I have an additional question. If your self is always living in the past, how on earth would one make any progress?

Try having an entanglement with an NDE or as I call it an IDE or in death experience. Its like the boundaries between past, present and future break down and all blur together. Although it does leave one without a fear of death, it took me about five years to get back to any stable realization of time because in the experience there is no sense of time.