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    RLT: What is the Spirit?

    For those who don't know what RLT is, it stands for Resting Light Theory. That's the name of my TOE. A number of people have asked lots of questions in that thread regarding the soul, the spirit or consciousness. I decided to move those discussions to this location. Please forgive me as I lay out some of the details of RLT. These will become important in later discussions about the nature of the soul.

    The Resting Light universe has 4 spatial dimensions. We refer to this universe as 4-space. The 4-space is filled with resting light, fundamental particles of pure light, which fill the 4-space in the same way the oceans of earth are filled with water. Also suspended upon the resting particles of light, are particles of fundamental matter. Both the fundamental particles of matter and of light (energy) are 4-dimensional in nature. Were we to see these particles in 4-space, we would see them as tiny hyperspheres--which we will simplify in this thread and simply think of as sphere's.

    When I say these particles of light and matter are resting, I am not implying that they don't move at all, I'm simply saying that they are at relative rest. If we look a a calm lake, we might say the water is still or that the surface is at rest, but the individual molecules of water are in fact gently moving. Particles of light move in the same way.

    For the most part the light in this ocean of 4-space is not organized, but when the light becomes organized, we call this organization a light form. Every living thing that ever was, that is, or that ever will be exists first as a light form. Light forms serve as the patterns upon which particles of matter can organize themselves. Light forms are catalysts. They are 4-dimensional beings with intelligence, volition and individuality. We assume in RLT that every creature on earth is actually a 4-dimensional light form.

    When a light form of 4 dimensions intersects a 3-space, it is only able to reveal a small portion of itself--a cross section. To imagine what this means, consider for a moment how a sphere would look if it intersected a plane. Initially it would look like a point, then a small circle that grows in size until the sphere has pushed through the plane up to its equator. It would then shrink in size until it was reduced to the point on its pole, and if it kept going it would pop out of existence from a planar perspective.

    So light forms when they appear in this 3-dimensional surface we call the observable universe, they appear first as a embryo. Serving as an organizing catalyst, each light form transforms the matter provided by a sperm and an egg into an embrionic body. As the light form inserts itself more fully into the 3-space, it becomes larger, is eventually born. It then moves through stages of infancy, childhood, adolescence, adulthood and old age. Eventually the light form disattaches from the 3D surface of the observable universe and ceases to exist in 3-space. But it continues to exist in the greater 4-space.

    This is the essense of what a spirit is in RLT. I'm starting this thread to discuss aspects of the spirit or consciousness in RLT. This thread presupposes that a light form represents each being's consciousness, which is also synonymous with spirit. Posters should try to operate within that context. Please stay polite. All are welcome to contribute. Thanks to any who come!

    Regards!

    Wick

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    Re: RLT: What is the Spirit?


    Every-thing and No-thing is Spirit.
    ~
    '' I am with you always, even to the end of the world but I am also with all the animals and plants.

    You are my body, I am your spirit. ''
    ~



    William Shakespeare.

    Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
    As I foretold you, were all spirits and
    Are melted into air, into thin air:
    And, like the baseless fabric of this vision,
    The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces,
    The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
    Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve
    And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
    Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
    As dreams are made on, and our little life
    Is rounded with a sleep.

    from 'The Tempest', Act IV, Scene 1.

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    Re: RLT: What is the Spirit?

    Hi, Wick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wick View Post
    I'm starting this thread to discuss aspects of the spirit or consciousness in RLT. This thread presupposes that a light form represents each being's consciousness, which is also synonymous with spirit. Posters should try to operate within that context. Please stay polite. All are welcome to contribute. Thanks to any who come!
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    Re: RLT: What is the Spirit?

    Every now and then, I encounter or observe a person who has an undefineable "something about them." They are most often soft spoken, respectful, and have an eye of quiet confidence. Most of them work their magic from the background, leading from within, not from the fore. From them I have learned what I attempt to summarize in a few lines.

    Question and answer are intertwined,
    Unique and common to all mankind.

    While we quest, not yet ready to understand,
    Those who know may not tell, the prime command.


    An interesting dimension for RLT, Wick.

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    I once took a long spiral shaped shell and dipped slowly into a basin of water that was at rest. As I inserted the shell through the surface of the water, I imagined what the flat shape of the shell would look like to a flat person living only upon the surface of the water. The flat person would have seen a point when I first permitted the shell to touch the surface, then she would have seen a tiny almost circular shape which grew in size then shrank in size, then grew in size then shrank in size, and each time the growing and shrinking occured the shape would shrink progressively less and grow progressively more.

    The flat person might come to think that the object she was looking at is an inderminately shaped, and somewhat amorphous object.

    The spirit is a 4-dimensional object inserted into a 3-dimensional surface. Each of us, having a spirit, is only able to experience that spirit in a material way moment by moment in 3-space. Sometimes we deceive ourselves and think that everything we are is in the moment, but that is not true. There is a great deal more of us located "above" and "below" this moment in which our material form exists. Most of what we are is not clothed in flesh. That hidden part exists in 4-space, and represents the majority of what we are.

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    Re: RLT: What is the Spirit?

    Discussed very little in this forum is the concept of biophotons. Please see the pdf file at the following location:

    http://alpha1.infim.ro/rrp/2008_60_3/43-885-898.pdf

    It discusses the concept of biophotons and discusses how biophotons in living systems form an "almost perfectly coherant photon field". The source of these photons is DNA. I would recommend looking at this research (and similiar sources). Please be advised that there is a lot of questionable (and somewhat quackish) material produced on the subject of biophotons. All material on the subject is welcome here but please consider sources you post. If they are not coming from reputable researchers in any given field, please steer clear.

    That said I am going to say something quackish.

    Let's consider whether the "almost perfectly coherant photon field" is something akin to spirit--or at the very least a manifestation of spirit in 3-space.

    If we think of this coherent electromagnetic field as spirit from a RLT perspective we need to remember a few things:

    We need to keep reminding ourselves that the observed electromagnetic field is only that portion of the field observable from our perspective in 3-space. We must constantly remember that the remainder of the coherant field extends ordward and entropward along the Tempth axis.

    While the electromagnetic field is a 4D phenomenon intersecting 3-space, we need to remember that that the field has the ability to rotate through the 3-space. Research describes this field as "self-organizing". RLT suggests that light is the organizing principle and that matter is the "stuff" light organizes.

    When looking at the research, please remember that it is written from a 3-space perspective. Please force yourself to read the research from a 4-space perspective...remember that the observable universe is moving, and that light (by and large) is at rest. It is worth noting that the light form (or the coherant electromagnetic field) in this case IS attached to the moving universe which moves at the velocity c in the direction of entrop.

    Another 3-space assumption is that the matter (in this case DNA) forms the light. But I want to consider the possibility that the coherant photon field actually forms the DNA. In otherwords the coherant light is foundational. In RLT, light is the organizing principle that gives rise to the DNA. From a 3-space perspective, we tend to think that the DNA got organized first and that made the coherent light possible.

    Hope this makes sense. If it doesn't please ask questions.

    Regards!

    Wick

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    Re: RLT: What is the Spirit?

    So the point of the last post is this: We are first and foremost electromagnetic life forms. Our electromagnetic bodies are organizing principles, or patterns according to which our physical/material bodies are formed in 3-space.

    I can't emphasize this enough. We are electromagnetic organisms. We are electromagnetic organisms. We are electromagnetic organism. We are electromagnetic organisms.

    Have any of you heard of rock rollers?

    Rock rollers are the immature forms of what we call the gaddisfly (or gadfly). They live under the water and usually attach themselves to the bottom of a rock near the muddy surface. There they gather tiny pebbles and large grains of sand which they build around themselves in the form of a tiny chimney. I used to delight to pick up stones to find them, looking like little tubes of earth, sometimes with a mouth protruding from one end.

    One might be confused by an organism like this. We see very organic looking tubes of earth and come to focus our attention on the clothes the organism wears rather than the organism itself.

    We are like the rock roller.

    We come here as an electromagnetic organism of 4D light and we attach ourselves to this 3-dimensional existence on a rock called earth. We take the materials provided by our parents--a sperm and an egg. And using our lightform as a pattern to initially organize this material and to cause it to begin self-organizing, we form a "tube of earth" around ourselves. Then we grow up, we meet one another and find that we focus all to often on the clothes we wear. Our bodies are mistaken for the person--the eletromagnetic life form--which lies inside the "clothes". We are not our flesh. We are the framers of our flesh. We are children of light.

    The fact that we are electromagnetic in nature is, however, rather clear (at least to me). Those of us we call "lower life forms" have an exquisite sense of electromagnetic phenomena. Bats, rodents and birds, for instance, have a finely tuned sense of earth's magnetic poles and the lines of force associated with those poles. They tend to navigate, engineer, eat, sleep and live with those lines of force as intrinsic guidelines.

    Even the larger mammals show a keen awareness of the earth's magnetic lines of force. A recent study showed that grazing cows tend to orient their bodies along a north south axis while eating. Why? We don't really know, but they have evolved upon earth and have learned to organize themselves in accordance with earth's magnetic forces.

    Interestingly, cows living in pastures where powerful electric lines are strung overhead tend to graze in a disorganized fashion, oriented in many different directions. It would seem that the power lines disrupt the herd's ability to sense earth's gentle magnetic pull.

    The cow is an electromagnetic organism. The cow is an electromagnetic organism. The cow is an electromagnetic organism. Every living thing is.

    Interestingly, some electromagnetic organisms have a sense that is not included in the commonly listed five senses. We have a sense of light more delicate than optical light. This sense seems to originate not in the eye, but somewhere else. Magnetism is one aspect of electromagnetism. The magnetic force is thought to be caused by the ordered motion of photons--sometimes called virtual photons, because they cannot be seen.

    We should ask ourselves: Why do the power lines disrupt the cows sense of magnetism (light)? The answer would seem clear (though it needs further study). It would seem that the electromagnetic field associated with the power lines clouds or confuses the cow's magnetic sense.

    Could it be possible that the electromagnetic effect of the powerline is actually changing the electromagnetic organism we call the cow? Could the penetrations of the electromagnetic field of the powerline into the coherent field which is the cow's organism change the configuration of the cow's electromagnetic body in 3-space. Could it warp the electromagnetic body of the cow in any way?

    We know that there is a high incidence of certain kinds of cancers in humans who live in the vicinity of large power lines. Evidence is also mounting which indicates cancers of the brain and head arise in children who use cell phones on a regular basis. Could it be that these artificial electromagnetic fields are altering an affected lightform's ability to self-organize the materials of their body when under the influence of the artificial field?

    I may be wrong, but I suspect these relatiionships between lightforms and artificial electromagnetic fields can only be properly understood and analyzed within the context of RLT and 4 spatial dimensions. I also think there is more to this thing we call spirit than...well...meets the eye!

    Wick

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    Re: RLT: What is the Spirit?

    I'm still with you Wick. My time is limited, so am still digesting the link you posted recently.

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    Re: RLT: What is the Spirit?

    I decided to leave a post here for Labelwench because of a post she recently wrote in RLT: A Superficial Universe.

    Our current thought (widely accepted in science) is that matter became organized over time through a series of events that causes amino acids to form and combine in such a way that microscopic life arose. This event was largely the product of chance. One aspect of life (whether that life is the basic life of a single-celled organism or a complex life form like a sperm whale) is that life forms generate a very low-intensity but coherant electromagnetic field which Popp (mentioned in posts above) calls a biophotonic field.

    In other words, our current understandiing of evolution is that matter first became organized which then causes the rise of the biophotonic fields associated with each organism. Or more simply stated: matter brought order to light.

    In RLT, we take a reversed approach. We say that light brought order to matter. In other words, the biophotonic field preceded the organized matter and in fact became the instrumentality which organized matter into the first single-celled organism. Once again, simply put: Light brought order to matter.

    In your recent post in RLT: A Superficial Universe you wrote this:

    Perception is reality, to the observer, and our mind, unencumbered by the denser bits of our being, is free to explore the known and the speculated upon.

    Light, or a portion thereof, travels through us, in the manner by which our skin converts sunlight to Vitamin D. We are all beings of light then, as the same light shines on and through us all, and without light, there would be no life on this planet.
    And I reply, YES, YES, YES!! We are all beings of light. First and foremost, we are beings of light. And when we shed the matter we wear today we will still exist as beings of light.

    Let me make this more personal for you: Labelwench is an ancient (meant with utmost respect) and wise being. Long before she walked this earth in the flesh she was a being of light who lived and experienced the universe in ways that only a creature of light can experience it. But there are certain things that a creature of light cannot experience without mingling with matter...things like loss, and sorrow, and joy, and pain. Simple things like the color purple, and the taste of crisp apples, right off the tree in early autumn. And so in very recent history, a man and a woman (your mother and father) came together and provided perfect conditions for Labelwench to use her "lightform" as an instrument to form a body in the womb of her mother--a body whereby she might walk the earth.

    You were light first, Labelwench. All of us were. And so were your horses, and the living grasses your horses eat and the trees that bear those apples in autumn. Every living thing is light first. Exactly what this means is hard for me to understand...for instance I don't think the lightforms of trees, necessarily look like trees, but in whatever form they take they hold the information for a tree's being. They serve as a luminal catalyst for a tree's formation. They are the pattern according to which a tree arises when a seed and appropriate conditions are in place to unlock the powers of life. They are individual and they are living light and they learn and adapt based upon the genetic and mitogenic memory of their parents.

    My argument with our interpretation of Darwin's brilliant insights into natural selection and evolution is not with the principle of evolution itself. It is the absence of any understanding of the role light has played in the processes of evolution. It is that we have ASSUMED that matter organized light, when it may well be that light organized matter.

    Forgive the long tirade!!

    Best Regards!

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    Re: RLT: What is the Spirit?

    Thank you for placing this post, Wick. Also, for leaving a clear trail, as you have likely noted that my attention span rivals that of the common housefly, and it's anyone's guess where it may alight next, or for how long a stay, lol...

    In my missions, I am as reliable as a seasoned work horse, steady pull on the traces until the task is done.

    My mind, is another matter, and tends to diffuse like sunlight shining through the aspen leaves which ripple with the wind, desiring to see both sides simultaneously, leaving me often with a view of the edge of each instead.

    So many interesting threads and perspectives that my signature demanded change to express such thought.

    Labelwench is an ancient (meant with utmost respect) and wise being. Originally posted by Wick
    Compliment accepted.

    The purpose of light as it relates to life......or should that be the other way round?

    Our physical senses and our latent intuitive and psychic abilities allow us to experience 'organized matter', and life is but a form of 'organized matter'.

    As 'light' we may only observe our handiwork.

    As 'life' we are both the handiwork, and the observer, embedded in the handiwork.

    The experience of 'being life' would be (is) vastly different from being light.

    Light has no parameters, as it can be absorbed, reflected, refracted, infinitely, although at spectrums our mere eyes cannot detect.

    Life comes with the parameters of biology, gravity and physics, to name but a few.

    Yet, the integrated input of our combined senses, grants us an experience, felt as emotion, that transcends all other knowns.

    The agony and bliss of being human, as we travel 'between the light', apart from, yet not entirely separated from, is the exquisite paradox of life.
    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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