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    No Path.

    There is no path that can lead to that which exists only as an idea.

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    Re: No Path.

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    There is no path that can lead to that which exists only as an idea.
    'Living Luminaries'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgdJt7zwdoA

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    Re: No Path.

    Indeed. The only thing that we can change is our attitude, and in that changing, the experiencing of our own life becomes changed.

    The easiest, and at the same time, the most difficult thing to do, in my opinion, as we ever seek to change the externals, and cannot, although we may dabble a bit with the landscape, lol....

    Even then, I can plant my garden, paying close attention to the rules that govern nature, and yet each seed will grow following it's own path.

    Identical seeds, identical conditions, yet some shall thrive mightily, while others languish, and no obvious hint as to cause.....
    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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    Re: No Path.

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post

    Even then, I can plant my garden, paying close attention to the rules that govern nature, and yet each seed will grow following it's own path.

    Identical seeds, identical conditions, yet some shall thrive mightily, while others languish, and no obvious hint as to cause.....
    Very nice.

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    the deed there is, but no doer thereof;
    Nirvana there is, but no one seeking it;
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    Re: No Path.

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    There is no path that can lead to that which exists only as an idea.
    Unless true 'Iff Conditional Feelings' produce the idea, then the path is inbuilt, in the pre-conditional premise...

    Example; If I want to be happy, I must make myself happy...rrr
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    Re: No Path.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    Unless true 'Iff Conditional Feelings' produce the idea, then the path is inbuilt, in the pre-conditional premise...

    Example; If I want to be happy, I must make myself happy...rrr
    Happiness is a personal experiencing, and the means and conditions to attaining same are only known to each person, although we may falsely seek to find same by emulating the actions of others.

    Yet the ability to experience happiness has a biological component, in that the neurological capacity or pathway to know such experience can be imaged, as we continue to learn more about brain function.

    Measuring and defining the subjective is a fascinating exercise, not without controversy....
    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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    Re: No Path.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    Unless true 'Iff Conditional Feelings' produce the idea, then the path is inbuilt, in the pre-conditional premise...

    Example; If I want to be happy, I must make myself happy...rrr
    Yes quite right Lloyd.

    Although the concept ''happiness'' is only an idea formed... it's not real, only the idea is real.


    Where idea is and how it is known cannot be said, or anything said represents an idea, and I have no idea what an idea is...

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    Re: No Path.

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post

    Measuring and defining the subjective is a fascinating exercise, not without controversy....
    Indeed, as ...

    Everything is an attempt by nothing to objectify itself.
    Nothing is an attempt by everything to subjectify itself.

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    Re: No Path.

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post
    Happiness is a personal experiencing, and the means and conditions to attaining same are only known to each person, although we may falsely seek to find same by emulating the actions of others.

    Yet the ability to experience happiness has a biological component, in that the neurological capacity or pathway to know such experience can be imaged, as we continue to learn more about brain function.

    Measuring and defining the subjective is a fascinating exercise, not without controversy....
    Mehmet Atalay at Stanford University has recently published a new interpretation of Kan'ts subjective/objective observations about experiential aesthetics, being the ground of naturl law and morality, philosophers have been looking for, for years.... Here's a link, see what you think__LINK LINK

    My daughter is finishing her graduation thesis, based on the new natural grounding of these ideas...
    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
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    Re: No Path.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    Mehmet Atalay at Stanford University has recently published a new interpretation of Kan'ts subjective/objective observations about experiential aesthetics, being the ground of naturl law and morality, philosophers have been looking for, for years.... Here's a link, see what you think__LINK LINK

    My daughter is finishing her graduation thesis, based on the new natural grounding of these ideas...
    Good information, bad timing.

    Too many demands on my time at this end for any serious contemplations, at present. Am using the forum for stress relief, and grounding, so not much assist to any one on the serious science for a while. I'll most likely get my kit organized after awhile...

    Nothing but fear and common sense ever holding us back, or so I was taught.....

    Congratulations to your daughter, on her pending graduation. I somehow expect that her thesis will be a fine piece of work.
    'The acorn never falls far from the tree'.
    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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