[dleviwing]

Thanks for clearing that up for me IC. I thought it was the power hungry authoritarians, religious fanatics, and the just plain stupid of the world. If you are including scientist with these materialists, then I must disagree with you.
Wake-up and smell the fertilizer.

[Infinite Consciousness]

dleviwing, you know as well as i know that - the power hungry authoritarians - the religious fanatics - the just plain stupid of the world - as well as the scientists who take advantage of those less fortunate are all in fact materialists.

The power hungry authoritarians - the religious fanatics - and the just plain stupid - did not produce weapons of mass destruction - did not discover the toxic substances poisoning our atmosphere - did not discover and unleash the pollutants that are destroying our environment -

So called scientists are the power hungry authoritarians favoring the scientific community or cliques over individual freedom - they are religious fanatics to their God matter and don't even know what it is - they are the just plain stupid of the world - that have brought this world to the brink of annihilation with their weapons of mass destruction - toxic atmosphere - polluted environment - and insatiable appetite for more and more of everything.

Materialists have a T.O.E. their theory of everything is to get everything they can and to hell with the consequences and to hell with anyone who gets in their way for tomorrow they die and that is the end of them.

Where do you think materialism as a way of life is coming from - is it not what our so-called scientists are advocating as the fundamental reality ? Materialism is the science of death. Materialism is what everything in this universe is made of and materialism is why everything in this physical-material universe eventually dies.

Matter without the life and cohesion of consciousness is death ! When consciousness i.e. life and its cohesive power leaves matter - matter as motion no longer exists. The illusion which is motion disappears and matter no longer exists.

Wake up and smell the roses haven't you been smelling and wallowing in the fertilizer long enough ?

[Infinite Consciousness]

Originally Posted by dleviwing IC; If your thoughts create reality, then why are you not a wealthy individual enjoying his yacht somewhere in the Caribbean? Send me some of the stuff you are smoking so I can join your reality. It was also said: “Ignorance is bliss”. I find you to be a very blessed individual but, you will not someday inherit the Earth; however, your kind may someday distroy it.

dleviwing, it is my kind that will someday save the earth - by helping to awaken the Infinite Consciousness and Light of Truth in man and those individuals unified in Truth will inherit the earth.

The Truth of Spirituality as Infinite Consciousness and Infinite Love will manifest on earth as it is in Heaven.

[Mr. Nobody]

To nature and the dust we come from, spirit is meaningless and evolution appears to point out that consciousness, spirit, intent, meaning are interpretations of the environment we come from and live in.
Look around and find total harmony among animals and plants (because the are not pre-occupied with a meaningless search for meaning when there is none). I am trying to tell you that our intelligence, born out of our greed, need and desire to hunt better and easier, caused the recognition of our distinction (as we surveyed herds of animals and deviced ways through corporation to kill more efficiently). We still strive to be more sucessfull than the next person, a drive intstilled by evolution that produces more hunters than resources in a perverted game of adaptation and survival of the most ingenuous. Religion was invented as we recognized our mortality and a pie in the sky (heaven) was baked to keep the ape giving his best, serving his group (as intelligence now told him that death sucks and happens anyway)

Therefore I proclaim that spirit is the hunters recognition of death as he takes life in the pursuit of life and can not escape the inevidable terminus of his existence as confined within his skull.

The cosmos exists with or without you and cares little for you, your prayer, your thoughts, your spirit or your interpretation of reality. The you, distinct and autonom in thinking is an unfortunate byproduct of evolution

[Infinite Consciousness]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nobody To nature and the dust we come from, spirit is meaningless and evolution appears to point out that consciousness, spirit, intent, meaning are interpretations of the environment we come from and live in. Look around and find total harmony among animals and plants (because the are not pre-occupied with a meaningless search for meaning when there is none). I am trying to tell you that our intelligence, born out of our greed, need and desire to hunt better and easier, caused the recognition of our distinction (as we surveyed herds of animals and deviced ways through corporation to kill more efficiently). We still strive to be more sucessfull than the next person, a drive intstilled by evolution that produces more hunters than resources in a perverted game of adaptation and survival of the most ingenuous. Religion was invented as we recognized our mortality and a pie in the sky (heaven) was baked to keep the ape giving his best, serving his group (as intelligence now told him that death sucks and happens anyway) Therefore I proclaim that spirit is the hunters recognition of death as he takes life in the pursuit of life and can not escape the inevidable terminus of his existence as confined within his skull. The cosmos exists with or without you and cares little for you, your prayer, your thoughts, your spirit or your interpretation of reality. The you, distinct and autonom in thinking is an unfortunate byproduct of evolution

AS YOU THINK / SO YOU BECOME !!!!!

[mkirkpatrick]

The goal of realisation for man is consciousness of the nature of the soul,the medium
through which the spiritaspect ever works.
More it is not possible for him to do.Having learnt to function as the soul,detached from
the three worlds,man then becomes a conscious corporate active part of that soul which
permeates and pervades all that is in manifestation.

Man can indeed bemost mindful of the human soul,but will remain ignorant of the true
nature of spirit,until he has expanded his consciousness far beyond his present understanding.



regards michael.

[r.p.bibra]

Michael there is willful divide being created between the so-called ‘east’ and the west: pray tell me, can intelligence be segregated between the supercilious lines on the map of the world; can mind be divided on caste, creed, religion and region? No! When people yearn for truth, their intellect automatically rises to higher degree of ‘enlightenment’. Masters of all the lands had known the depths of mind in their own way and thus classed their findings in different systems, which later formed into ‘faith, philosophies, or even religions. But in each case the scope of mind has been underestimated. But for the modern science, which is shredding its mystical conceptions, only to reveal its multiple dimensions, the religiosity had, on the contrary, shrouded it into a mystery, whose role in the scheme of the world was very limited---confined it to only the gross aspects of life. much to chagrin of the world, it is now being accepted that the ‘eastern’ thought had much wider ‘conception’ of its dimension (conscious: it may be understood that though they (east) considered mind as an inert entity, but as the element of conscious ‘enters’ it to usher the cycle of evolution, it assumes the attributes of its benefactor---consciousness)! They had delved deep into its mysteries and found that its powers were almost equal to dimensional world/universe. They had also found that its powers/qualities/attributes were not fictional, but a practical reality. Their research had found that there are four levels of conscious in human mind, which are as under:
Super-mind. Related to body consciousness.
(Principle of Aathma)
Higher-mind. Thought consciousness.
Illumination-mind. That which transcends five elements.
Over-mind. Super-conscious, principle of Aathma.
(Mindlessness)
From the above can it be surmised that the heights of wisdom which the ‘east’ has attained, is not related to universal wisdom. Wisdom/Intelligence is universal truth and it has to be realized by each individual-mind, not that it is not there already! Any seeker, who has understood and realized the truth of the above, is a realized soul, because at That level of conscious, the individual-mind had submerged into the cosmic-mind---the Over-mind. See, the old master had not differentiated between the consciousness and awareness attributes of the mind and soul! Why? As soon as the seeker has attained to That level of consciousness, its mysteries are already understood! Amen. Ls.

[mkirkpatrick]

Ls my brother,many thanks for your most thoughtful post,you say there is a "willful-divide" being created between east and west,and that modern science is shredding its
mystical conceptions!

Well that may well be true,but I feel that this translational process is absolutely
essentual so that western minds can grasp the principles laiddown in the ancient wisdom.

The shredding process makes it more acceptable,and more "scientific" looking to
western minds.

Along the way in a few years time I think that east and west will meet,and the "two" concepts of reality,will merge into one.



regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

In keeping with the principle of absolute simplicity,then spirit is the inner animator of
energy,or even more simply,energy gets its energy from spirit?



regards michael.

[r.p.bibra]

brother,energy is the quality of creation,not of spirit/soul, as soul is neither of the universe,nor of the matter.it is independent,whole,eternal;not directly related to matter or life even!regards.ls