[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by hanzoganz Are we coming to the times of believing, again, in what we don´t see? In the beginning there was magic and alchemy; then reason and inquisition and then we invented guillotine -or was it the french? Phenomenon is proved to exist even if we don`t see it. In a summer of research i worked with a tutor that works in the particle accelerators in Germany. They discovered the charmed pentaquark, a kind of particle they suspected that existed but never observed before. They ran the experiment and found evidence of this particle by the energy that was remaining after the foton collition. They never saw it but are sure it exists. Now, science takes place of magic? What is reality?

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Dear hanzoganz:
The same sightless (unsubstantiated) line of reasoning applies to black holes, super-strings and an extensive ensemble of subatomic particles (with an inventory of names that need be seen to be 'believed').

I agree with your questioning of the methods that sometimes bring these speculations into categories of alleged theory and/or serious consideraton tantamount to theory. Particle accelerators (thingee slingers) and cloud chambers are notorious for procreating still births which are adopted, named and baptized.

Regards,
- RP

[MJA]

Originally Posted by michellemfry Phenomenon are observed and experienced with an avoidance of all interpretation, explanation, and evaluation. For example, dark matter is the result of observations of galaxy velocity. We offer no explanation, we do not try to interpret the results, and evaluation is lacking. The velocities of galaxies suggests the presence of much more matter than can be seen. This phenomenon has come to be known as the dark matter problem. Perhaps that will suffice for a beginning. Please feel free to comment.

Hi Michelle,

I think dark matter is simply the space that unites all things.

As far as the velocities of galaxies phenomenon, I believe space or dark matter moves equally or the same as a galaxy or any other part of the whole or the universe. Equal in that the universe has infinite as well as uniform direction at the same time. An example in nature is in the motion of a river or stream. Through examination one can see water moving in infinite directions. Yet we also know the stream moves from the mountain to the sea, in a single direction. So, what direction does the stream or the galaxay or the dark matter, or the universe travel, in infinite directions, or in one single direction? The universe is phenomenal, isn't it? We cannot even measure with certainty the direction of a stream!

MJA

[bottomlander]

Originally Posted by MJA An example in nature is in the motion of a river or stream. Through examination one can see water moving in infinite directions. Yet we also know the stream moves from the mountain to the sea, in a single direction. So, what direction does the stream or the galaxy or the dark matter, or the universe travel, in infinite directions, or in one single direction? The universe is phenomenal, isn't it? We cannot even measure with certainty the direction of a stream! MJA

Thanks for reminding readers upon atomic motions, statistical and overall motions and directions whereas our physical world can be viewed with micro and macro scales.

TOE is to explain, demystify and put all phenomena in their own positions in a unified framework.

Best Regards. Bottomlander