Big Crunch or Big Rip?

[Fredrick]

Orientation of the spin I think.

I would imagine the answer is more complex than that, Dipayan, but then again you would be thinking in the right direction.

Consider the following example that I received via private message and that I adjusted to state something about gravity: take two ping pong balls and within a short distance of one another have them fall into a tub of water. If the distance is not too great the two ping pong balls end up 'attached' next to one another.

I believe the wave motion that starts out the same for both, is not identical at the location between the two ping pong balls. The wave patterns in-between are either diminished results due to their interactions (and as such slightly lowering the water level as in creating a path between the two ping pong balls), and/or larger waves are created between the ping pong balls that attracts the ping pong balls in that direction due to a larger wave-drop, pulling a ping pong ball in the direction of the other ping pong ball.

What is nice about this image is that the ping pong balls float on the water, something I consider realitic for matter at the atomic level floating on the spacetime reality.

What this would mean for gravity is that the wave pulsation between objects creates its own momentum, plus the collective aspect of gravity is then also covered/possible through the collective wave pulsation of larger objects.

Though I give great importance to spin from an over level (earth, solar system), and especially for the collection of matter at the heart of said spin, this would indicate a creation of spin (not for earth itself, but) for earth's surrounding that can be experienced as gravity. The collective waves earth puts out are bounced off to objects that themselves have wave output. The interplay of wave results between the two objects (earth and a satellite, for instance) creates a singular path of attraction just like the wave interaction between the ping pong balls in the bathwater created a specific wave path. Naturally, speed needs to be thrown into the equation to get to the actual result.


At the (sub)atomic level, the story is different, because we are not working with independent entities here, but with dependent entities. Like-kind parts must repel if they do not want to weaken themselves. Their outside existence is already not independent, and when combined their dependency will only increase.

The best example I can think of is of two people being underwater and having two oxigen tanks. A shark is nearby, enraged already somewhat by the bubbles coming out of the two people's mouths. The shark would be moving in and attacking one of the two people, if they swam close to each other and created bubbles simultaneously from within a single location. They don't want the shark to move in, so they team up, and have certain do's and don'ts to save their lives.

Meanwhile, the shark remains attracted, so opposites do show a behavior of attraction.

[dipayankar]

Interesting experiment Fredrick. I wonder how those balls would react if we imparted a spin on those balls and dropped them.

The spin might negate the effect of waves as it drags the water around it.

Still would be an interesting experiment.

I would imagine the answer is more complex than that, Dipayan, but then again you would be thinking in the right direction.

Consider the following example that I received via private message and that I adjusted to state something about gravity: take two ping pong balls and within a short distance of one another have them fall into a tub of water. If the distance is not too great the two ping pong balls end up 'attached' next to one another.

I believe the wave motion that starts out the same for both, is not identical at the location between the two ping pong balls. The wave patterns in-between are either diminished results due to their interactions (and as such slightly lowering the water level as in creating a path between the two ping pong balls), and/or larger waves are created between the ping pong balls that attracts the ping pong balls in that direction due to a larger wave-drop, pulling a ping pong ball in the direction of the other ping pong ball.

What is nice about this image is that the ping pong balls float on the water, something I consider realitic for matter at the atomic level floating on the spacetime reality.

What this would mean for gravity is that the wave pulsation between objects creates its own momentum, plus the collective aspect of gravity is then also covered/possible through the collective wave pulsation of larger objects.

Though I give great importance to spin from an over level (earth, solar system), and especially for the collection of matter at the heart of said spin, this would indicate a creation of spin (not for earth itself, but) for earth's surrounding that can be experienced as gravity. The collective waves earth puts out are bounced off to objects that themselves have wave output. The interplay of wave results between the two objects (earth and a satellite, for instance) creates a singular path of attraction just like the wave interaction between the ping pong balls in the bathwater created a specific wave path. Naturally, speed needs to be thrown into the equation to get to the actual result.


At the (sub)atomic level, the story is different, because we are not working with independent entities here, but with dependent entities. Like-kind parts must repel if they do not want to weaken themselves. Their outside existence is already not independent, and when combined their dependency will only increase.

The best example I can think of is of two people being underwater and having two oxigen tanks. A shark is nearby, enraged already somewhat by the bubbles coming out of the two people's mouths. The shark would be moving in and attacking one of the two people, if they swam close to each other and created bubbles simultaneously from within a single location. They don't want the shark to move in, so they team up, and have certain do's and don'ts to save their lives.

Meanwhile, the shark remains attracted, so opposites do show a behavior of attraction.

[MJA]

I can't wait to see what happens to the spinning either.

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MJA

[dipayankar]

This link does provide matter for discussion

http://www.ras.org.uk/index.php?opti...=1600&Itemid=2

[AntonioLao]

This link does provide matter for discussion

I am still puzzle why scientists keep trying to debunk Newton's law of gravitation although they know these galactic anomalies can easily be explained by the gravitational effects of both mass and energy (energy momentum tensor) of general relativity.

[dipayankar]

Antonio, honestly do you believe that dark energy exists? If no then, you would probably require these kind of experiments.

I am still puzzle why scientists keep trying to debunk Newton's law of gravitation although they know these galactic anomalies can easily be explained by the gravitational effects of both mass and energy (energy momentum tensor) of general relativity.

[AntonioLao]

square dark energy is the basis of my research for cold fusion while its opposite is square energy.

[dipayankar]

Okay now I am curious. Do you produce dark energy or are trying to harness dark energy for cold fusion?

square dark energy is the basis of my research for cold fusion while its opposite is square energy.

[AntonioLao]

Square of dark energy (yin) and square of energy (yang) are both so finely balance that it is by present standard of technologies extremely difficult to produce excess working energy.

[mkirkpatrick]

Square of dark energy (yin) and square of energy (yang) are both so finely balance that it is by present standard of technologies extremely difficult to produce excess working energy.

The figure 8 can be used to express these Ying /Yang energies,excess energy can be found at the end of each
swirl of 8,just before the next sequence begins.

It is in the form of a "flicking off" energy as the cycle
finishes,a brief moment in the eternal now,before the next
cycle begins.



regards michael.