[PoPpAScience]

Hi David,

I plan on reading this thread a few times to absorb as much of it as I can. I won't be able to converse as well as Brian did, but I would like to touch on many of the Ideas in here.

At the beginning of this thread we are in agreement of there being a core Ether, that I call Aware, that all else manifests from. The differences begin between us in that you see the collisions of the units of Ether as the catalyst for the formation of form. Where I see Aware (Ether) as whirling into Vortex's to create the fundamental building blocks for all future formations. I feel that the Ether (Aware) is unreducable and only becomes more by its interactions with itself. This is where the Vortex comes in, by adding more Ether and Speed to Area, thus creating condensed quanta of Ether (Aware). These Vortex's of Ether, interact together to create matter.

Please excuse my lack of writing abilities, I have had little reason to write in the last 36 years. I can only improve if people are willing to converse with me.

[PoPpAScience]

Hi David,

Last week I changed my whole view on the first action of the Aether (Aware), from wave function to whirl. I changed this after thinking very hard about a quote by Einstein, "It takes a touch of genius, and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite direction.". I realized that after being stuck for over a decade without being able to give multiple directions, and a reason to evolve into the Aether (Aware), I had to reevaluate my way of thinking. But thanks to Vincent Wee-Foo, with the Einstein quote in his signature, and his thread on 'Universal Vortical Singularity', I was able to have not one, but two mind altering thoughts. I was able to add the whirl to my way of seeing the conception (egg) of the Aether (Aware), and then a week latter add the reason for the start of Evolution (Vortex).

The reason I am writing this is that I am only a few days into this new way of seeing things and thus might be a little scrambled in my of explaining things right now. If I was not pressed for time right now because of having to start working 14 hours a day, 6 days a week, for the next 5 months driving to make my yearly money, I would have not said anything right away, but wait till I have read most of this forum again to see how my new Ideas fit in. But having 14 hours a day starting next week to contemplate my new way of looking at things, mixed with your great way of seeing things, I am rushing to fill my head with as much extra information as I can.

My theory is about a time before the theories of anyone else, my theory is about the Egg that came before the chicken. Your theory is the best chicken theory I have seen and will be studying it when ever I have time over the next 5 months.
I would like to say after thinking about it all morning, that right now the only difference between how I see the chicken era and what you see, which I saw up to the few days ago, is that I see the wave function now as a vortex.

[PoPpAScience]

Originally Posted by dleviwing The Genesis Hypothesis One scenario for Genesis is that matter was concentrated in units of enormous quantities. These units may have been whizzing through the cosmos with absolute linear motion (2x10^20 m/s) from all different directions. By some remote chance, two of these units where on a collision course ordained to create a remarkable existence from this single substance. In this scenario there is no need to comprehend entities of energy, forces, or gravity, to explain the existence of stars, planets, and galaxies, only an understanding of the basic properties of the fundamental substance that is about to collide. These properties are primarily, “Self-affinity” (bonding) and “Absolute Motion”.

David,

What if the concentrated units you talk of here, were Vortex's whizzing through the cosmos?

Would they not fit into your theory?

[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by PoPpAScience What if the concentrated units you talk of here, were Vortex's whizzing through the cosmos? Would they not fit into your theory?

NO!


Allen;
In my concept the “Aether” is just an extreme motion state of the fundamental entity of the universe that is in a state of chaotic vibrations such that it does not condense to its solid form; it actually causes expansion. The opposite of this state is the total uniform motion in the form of linear velocity that allows the bonding property of the fundamental substance to achieve its maximum and thus forming a perfect solid unit of the fundamental; no need to invent a singularity.

Your vortex concept can only apply to the process of converting the chaotic motion of the substance to the uniform motion of angular momentum. A vortex is not a fundamental state of motion nor substance; it requires several degrees of freedom to exist; along with wave mechanics however, it can be aplied to subatomic particle concepts.

Attempting to give the word “aware” a different meaning only causes confusion; you should attempt to use existing terminology until you actually need to invent a new word or meaning.

[MJA]

Originally Posted by dleviwing At one time we were able to say that the universe was everything that existed. Now we need to refine this image such to say "the Cosmos represents everything that exists". Our universe is but one of many within the infinity of the Cosmos. Having stated this, let's consider a Genesis hypotheses. The Genesis Hypothesis One scenario for Genesis is that matter was concentrated in units of enormous quantities. These units may have been whizzing through the cosmos with absolute linear motion (2x10^20 m/s) from all different directions. By some remote chance, two of these units where on a

Hi Dave,

What is the Genesis of the matter and the motion that you refer too in your Genesis Hypothesis?
Shouldn't you go back to the Genesis of square one?

=
MJA

[dleviwing]

Mike;
Maybe you should read the text of my blog for I was really being a bit sarcastic about the current Big-Bang concept as being a Genesis Hypothesis (creationism) or something from nothing scenario like the biblical “let there be light” and “in the beginning” scenarios.

[PoPpAScience]

David;

Now David, I deal in the realm that existed before your theory starts. The realm when your chaotic vibrations where in their solid state without motion. The realm I deal in, is a realm that is terrifying to think about by all but a few in human history, that is why I go there. I go there after reading all the theories of scientist and all the meditative incites brought forth by enlighten individuals over a 30 year span. I have seen over the last decade how when someone tries to go beyond this mental barrier, that they are ridiculed and told that they have no right to go beyond the established norm. I feel this is very wrong, for I have ever right to try and add to the advancement of human thought.

Now I do take offence to you saying I should not change the meaning of the word "Aware". That is like me saying to you that you should not change the meaning of the word "matter". It does "matter" that I use the best descriptive word I can find when I talk about "Matter". Just as I talk about an Aether that has the abilities of being "Aware" of its surroundings, thus giving it the property of being able to imprint experiences upon its existence, which lead it to evolve.

[dleviwing]

What do you mean by “meditative incites brought forth by enlightened individuals”?; people who have taken drugs?

Pure philosophies do not require evidence, just believers. In the field of science you are required to present evidence or at least logic that supports your philosophies and theories. I don’t think you really want to take my thread down the path of spiritualism or metaphysics; do you?

I use the term “matter” rather than writing “absolute matter”, “fundamental matter”, or “fundamental substance”; I don’t see that you can justify the same use of “aware” in your case.

If you are truly offended I would suggest you get over it; I’m more interested in what you think and don’t really give a $#*! what you feel. I have very little time or tolerance for those who make decisions and judgments based on their emotional state of mind. I refuse to be forced into accounting for the emotions of a person before I communicate with them; you should not be concerned with my feeling either; just be straight and honest.

[MJA]

Originally Posted by dleviwing Mike; Maybe you should read the text of my blog for I was really being a bit sarcastic about the current Big-Bang concept as being a Genesis Hypothesis (creationism) or something from nothing scenario like the biblical “let there be light” and “in the beginning” scenarios.

oops!,
Obviously beyond the simple truth that I know.

Sorry,
=
MJA

[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by MJA oops!, Obviously beyond the simple truth that I know. Sorry, = MJA

Dear Mike:
Wasn't this faux pas in the shoutbox a while ago?