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I think thee is an error in most thinking here. Those deaths which are important, are nothing if it's not due to the life. I mean, someone's death can't be important if he wasn't important somehow in life. For example, we might say most philosophers died without ahving been important in life, but they did something important, their philosophies. So therefore their deaths were important. I mean, by this, that not only the role that one plays and the influence one has on society are 'importance', but also what one does. Many artists (like Van Gogh) died after a miserable lif,e but their deaths were important because of what they painted, composed, wrote... | |
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Originally Posted by harmonygirl or perhaps we are all important, whether recognized or not? | Yes, of course. In fact, the mathematico-logical definition of unique is something which can be put into a set in which only it belongs, and each person and objects is unique cause the total properties of two objects are different (even if they are identical physically, they will be in different sapce-time points and thus they won't have the same properties). I never talked about some humans being more important than others in the sense of their achievements, I'm not a judge nor a moralist nor a believer in god. | |
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Originally Posted by <<<GUILLE>>> I'm not a judge nor a moralist nor a believer in god. | Whether or not you believe in God you should put it in capital I've decided because it is a proper noun. It doesn't have anything to do with whether you're an atheist or not, it's just proper grammar. | |
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Originally Posted by subversion Whether or not you believe in God you should put it in capital I've decided because it is a proper noun. It doesn't have anything to do with whether you're an atheist or not, it's just proper grammar. | I am not slave of the laws of linguistics, and in fact, each philosophers in free to invent a system of vocabulary and grammar according to his or her believes. If I beleive that god is only a concept, an idea, Ican write it as I wish. | |
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04-22-2006, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by harmonygirl or perhaps we are all important, whether recognized or not? | Absolutely right Harmony,we are all of Equal importance,and that
whether or not we are known by many or few is irrelevant.
kind regards michael. Humilty,coupled with boldness,surprises truth to
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Originally Posted by <<<GUILLE>>> I think thee is an error in most thinking here. Those deaths which are important, are nothing if it's not due to the life. I mean, someone's death can't be important if he wasn't important somehow in life. For example, we might say most philosophers died without ahving been important in life, but they did something important, their philosophies. So therefore their deaths were important. I mean, by this, that not only the role that one plays and the influence one has on society are 'importance', but also what one does. Many artists (like Van Gogh) died after a miserable lif,e but their deaths were important because of what they painted, composed, wrote... | No death is more important than anyother death. Some may be more popular but no more important than the next. You can be effected by the death of a person you had no idea existed. It does not matter how popular or how insignificant you may think a person maybe, when a person passes on I feel it effects us all. The same goes for the birth of a person. Each person has a significant value in life. From death come life come death come life.............. | |
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Originally Posted by chazzysaw No death is more important than anyother death. Some may be more popular but no more important than the next. You can be effected by the death of a person you had no idea existed. It does not matter how popular or how insignificant you may think a person maybe, when a person passes on I feel it effects us all. The same goes for the birth of a person. Each person has a significant value in life. From death come life come death come life.............. | I know all deaths (just as all lifes) are equally important, I'm not a moralist telling anybody that 'the children and women first' or 'the rich, famous and pretty first' etz. I just say that people give more importance to some death than to other, and so some deaths are more improtant in society than others (because of people's will). But for nature, they are all equal. | |
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Originally Posted by <<<GUILLE>>> I know all deaths (just as all lifes) are equally important, I'm not a moralist telling anybody that 'the children and women first' or 'the rich, famous and pretty first' etz. I just say that people give more importance to some death than to other, and so some deaths are more improtant in society than others (because of people's will). But for nature, they are all equal. | I understand your point, but I personally prefer the word popular over important.There are people who have pass that have contributed profound effects in human life and very few people knew about it or them. Most people rate importance due to popularity. | |
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04-26-2006, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Absolutely right Harmony,we are all of Equal importance,and that
whether or not we are known by many or few is irrelevant.
kind regards michael. | I would agree to this and add that everyone is all-important, and everything is created equal. | |
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